Edward Deasy

…It is shocking. And I want to get more into that. I wanted to ask you one more thing around science. So when I talked to my friend Ethan Cross about mattering, and I was asking him where he suggested I should look, he turned me towards Edward Deasy and Richard Ryan's work on self-determination theory. And I have seen the linkages between the need for intrin…

…And the world right now is facing division, as you brought up. It's facing a whole shift in how we're working, how we're communicating with people. And a lot of what your book speaks to ties very closely with the work of Edward Deasy and Richard Ryan's self-determination theory, where they found that intrinsic motivation really was dependent on autonomy, m…

…Yeah, and I love how you tied self-determination theory into that. And I haven't had Edward Deasy on, but I have had Richard Ryan on the show. And it's amazing how much the two of them have been cited. I think they are the two most cited living scientists who are alive today.…