John Carreyrou in Podcasts

uh john carrier carrier carrier well no we've let's just say we've we've scammed our way through that surname um he was a new york times journalist or something like that investigative journalist who sort of went into it all and he wrote the book on the subject and helped produce the podcast and i think the the dropout was loosely based on that whole thing yeah

Well, John Carreyrou knows a liar when he sees one.