Mike Wargon

…He goes, I'm not cool. I've never been cool in my entire life. And he just said it. And then it was like, now we're just off and running. And actually, he's the winner in all of it because he's not holding himself some cool guy standard now. But, you know, a lot of us have spent a life pursuing. So there's just this honesty with him. that is incredible.…

…And so every time something is uncovered, we're so floored. At least I know that I am. We're experiencing it at the same time the audience is. Yeah, for the record, I think having a Simba tattoo and running a half marathon at Disney is not the coolest thing. I laughed. But the thing is, is Wargon came on and said one of the first things he ever said to us.…

…And I think I speak for all of us who are not masters of the universe when I say that sometimes it's nice to hear a story where at least one of us walks away from the crash unscathed. Truthless was written and reported by me, Brian Phillips. The executive producers are Juliette Littman and Sean Fennessy. Our story editor is Connor Nevins. The show was prod…