Pamela Browner White

…Um, you bring up such an important point, Pamela, that when when patients go to their doctors, they're seeking certainty and they want there's an aspect to the challenge of this.…

…Um, I guess I I appreciate your question, Pamela, about moments because uncertainty really is I think it's about millions of moments, tiny moments where information gets communicated well or or inaccurately and where decisions get made consciously or not, or where hope…