Hearing - E-01345A-25-0105 - Arizona Public Service Company - Jun 02, 2026
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What procedural updates and witness schedule are being discussed at the start of the hearing?
the record on this wonderful ninth day in the hearing of Arizona Public Service for a determination on the fair value of its plant and for rates to be set thereon. Uh I believe where we left off, Miss Johnson, you were in the middle of your cross, but I'll check very quickly are there any procedural matters we need to take up at this time? Your Honor, I don't want necessarily a procedural matter, just um updating folks in terms of what we have coming up uh for our witnesses that we're presenting. Um Uh uh you know, there's an order where after Mr. Walter's finished today, Miss Blankenship. And then we have Mr. Bauer. Um Uh Jamie Moe and Jessica Hobbick and then if you look at the calendar, you'll see kind of sandwiched in there uh Dr.
Kim Catarega. Uh he is actually actually similar to how we approached uh Mr. Coin. Mr. Coin. Yeah, he is gonna be a date certain. And so he'll start on Thursday morning. And uh you know, just wherever we are in the schedule of Miss Blankinship our Mo, Hobek, and so on. Uh, we'll pause. go through uh Dr. Catarega and then resume where we are on the schedule. Okay. So just wanted to give folks a heads up because uh that is a couple days away and hopefully that helps with planning. And you know We we we do think that Doctor uh Catarega's testimony will not take very long, all things being equal. I'm I'm hoping since the only people I have signed up to cross examine him right now are large customer group, federal executive, RUCO and staff.
So I I am optimistic, but we'll see. Depreciation is a sneakily popular topic. So Yeah. All right. Well I appreciate the heads up then. So and it's this Thursday you're talking about. That's correct. Okay. Your Honor, I have one other procedural thing before we begin. Yeah, go ahead. Um, I uh I don't know if this will matter or not, but um there is a surprise city council meeting this afternoon at four thirty. A number of the parties are engaged on that matter actually, including APS. Um, but uh my team is slightly smaller than APS's, so I do need to be at that meeting. And so um I won't be available for cross after four PM today. Hopefully that won't be an issue, but to the extent I should be called on um or we're getting close, I I would appreciate it some flexibility to either be able to go earlier or um, you know, maybe after Ruku or something in the order so that I don't miss my opportunity.
Whoa. I I don't know what to tell you. I mean, we we we'll move at the pace we're moving at. And so I mean, again, there's not a lot of people who are looking to cross examine the next witness, uh Miss Blankenship either. Uh I don't know what to tell you. Uh we we do have to make progress. We'll do our best to accommodate, but Other than that, I mean, we we're not gonna put the hearing on pause as far as I'm you know, we'll just have to play it by here as of this moment, so Oh sorry, I wasn't asking that. I'm just asking for when I get called in cross, um, to try to go earlier or later, not for the hearing to be paused. That's what I meant. I'm sorry. Okay. Well, in any event, we'll we'll play it by ear and we'll see where we're at when we get there.
So all right, but thank you for the heads up. So Uh anything else from anyone? All right. All right, in that case, uh Ms. Johnson, are you ready to resume with your questions? I'm ready, Your Honor. Okay. Uh Mr Walter, I'll remind you you're still under oath. Mr. Walter, are you able to hear me? I am and good morning. Good morning. And um I'm very much not a morning person. So uh we're gonna see how this goes. Um hopefully hopefully I'll be able to muddle through. I like the two of us. Okay. Okay, good. That makes me feel better. Maybe we'll maybe we'll be coming at it from the same place then. Um, all right, so uh I'm gonna uh pick up uh where I think we left off yesterday. I want to talk a little bit about um the conversation as far as the the two percent growth rate.
Um Do you recall your testimony yesterday with counsel for vote solars um regarding that that topic? I do. Okay. I think yesterday you said you did not recall the precise basis for the two percent assumption, correct?
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Agenda
8 items
1
What procedural updates and witness schedule are being discussed at the start of the hearing?
0:00–15:20
2
How is the two‑percent load growth assumption and utility‑scale solar modeling explained?
15:20–1:05:09
3
What does the market‑purchase scenario reveal about DG solar output and peak‑hour pricing?
1:05:09–2:40:34
4
What is an N‑minus‑one condition and how does it affect transmission and distribution analysis?
2:40:34–3:04:58
5
How do AGX customers’ resource‑adequacy charges, PSA, and fuel‑hedging arrangements differ from standard APS rate components?
3:04:58–3:51:06
6
Does distributed solar generation reduce market purchases and how is its effective load‑carrying capability (ELCC) valued in APS’s cost‑of‑service calculations?
3:51:06–4:56:23
7
What are the disagreements over generation‑maintenance expense normalization and Ms. Higgins’ proposal?
4:56:23–6:10:54
8
How does the discussion shift to the fair‑value increment, FRAM filing schedule, and rate‑base calculations?
6:10:54–7:26:09
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