Hearing - E-01345A-25-0105 - Arizona Public Service Company - Jun 11, 2026
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What scheduling conflicts and motions are being discussed at the start of the hearing?
Let's go on the record. Good morning, everyone. Happy Thursday. We have returned for APS Day 15, I believe, if I counted correctly. And to start off before we begin with the presentation of witnesses, there are two motions in front of me. So there's the one with regard to IBEW and the changing of the schedule. But there's also the one that was filed by, actually, there's a whole litany of parties here. But Ms. Reyes, do you want to speak to your motion?
I think most of what I wanted to say was in the motion. Ultimately, I think the issue is just having some advance notice and open communication. We were kind of blindsided by having the days added. And, you know, we had scheduled, I personally had to cancel a doctor's appointment after the changes. And we did add the days in July, which I thought was what you had indicated to be your preference. And so...
Okay, well, while I got you up here, so we did have the discussion on the 9th The dates were discussed, you know, 18th, 19th, and 25th. I had indicated that I had reservations about the 19th because of, you know, trying to accommodate people even without querying, but just in light of that, you know, I don't know who observes the day and who doesn't, and I don't want to have to decide that. So with regard to the 18th and, well, with regard to the 19th, I heard you clearly that both you and Ms. Linkowski would be definitely unavailable on the 19th, so I didn't see that as an issue. But with regard to the 18th and 25th, maybe I didn't hear it, and maybe it wasn't said, Is there an actual conflict that you have for the 18th or the 25th?
Having talked to some of my clients, there is a bit of a conflict. I personally am not available on the 25th, but I was able to talk with Ms. Langowski, and my understanding is she is available on the 25th. I think the other issue is if there are going to be additional days added, that we just have a little bit more time, because I hadn't had really any time to think about it when it was posed.
Well, there being not that many days left in June that aren't already spoken for, I don't think that's going to be an issue. But with regard to the two days in question, so you can live with the 18th and 25th so long as there's no further changes?
Yes, at this point. And also, I wanted to point out that we did have the 10 days in July, and APS was resistant to utilize those 10 days in July. And I think there should have been more of a robust conversation about that. I do understand that some of the other parties that's filed joinder, I can't speak on their behalf, but they may actually have real conflicts on those dates. And I know that at least one party also has a conflict. CONFLICT FOR THE 19th BUT THAT'S ENTIRELY OFF TABLE. CONFLICT FOR THE 19th BUT THAT'S ENTIRELY OFF
TABLE. I'M DEFINITELY NOT I'M DEFINITELY NOT CONSIDERING THE 19th. CONSIDERING THE 19th. THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOUR THANK YOU
SO MUCH, YOUR HONOR.
HONOR. MOVING THROUGH THE LIST, I MOVING THROUGH THE LIST, I BELIEVE ARACIA ALSO FILED IN BELIEVE ARACIA ALSO FILED IN SUPPORT. SUPPORT. MS. JOHNSON, DID YOU WANT TO MS.
JOHNSON, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? SPEAK? YES, YOUR HONOR. YES, YOUR HONOR. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. BOTH MY KIDS ARE CRYING IN THE BOTH MY KIDS ARE CR So I have a conflict that afternoon. And then on the 25th, I have numerous conflicts that I haven't tried to reschedule yet because I wasn't sure what the outcome of this discussion would be. But yes, on the days that we have not scheduled hearings, they have been filled in by other things.
All right. And again, you are the only attorney who represents Aracia, correct?
Sadly, yes, Your Honor.
Well, I mean, nothing sad about it. If that's the situation, that's the situation. What I'm trying to get at is there actual prejudice going on or is it simply inconvenience? So you have actual prejudice you're looking at where no other person can represent your interest. Is that in summary what you're getting at?
For the afternoon of the 18th, for at least the time in which I need to be on that, I feel like it would be inappropriate to cancel a speaking engagement that I committed to a long time ago with less than a week notice.
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Agenda
8 items
1
What scheduling conflicts and motions are being discussed at the start of the hearing?
0:00–26:02
2
How does the testimony shift to Mr. Andrews’ depreciation methodology and expert analysis?
26:02–1:32:04
3
What are the key issues raised about the PSA load‑growth adjustment, ELCC calculations, and schedule exhibits?
1:32:04–2:49:05
4
What are the new incremental generation costs and how are they allocated?
2:49:05–3:43:04
5
How is the ELCC (Effective Load Carrying Capability) calculation applied to new resources?
3:43:04–4:17:33
6
Why does the commission consider the authorized ROE versus the market‑based cost of equity?
4:17:33–4:45:44
7
What does the discussion reveal about APS’s need for new debt and its capital structure?
4:45:44–5:16:53
8
How do the witnesses explain the credit‑rating methodology and why APS’s ROE is considered an outlier?
5:16:53–7:30:52
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