Hearing - E-01345A-25-0105 - Arizona Public Service Company - Jun 22, 2026

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What procedural matters and witness scheduling are addressed at the beginning of the hearing?

Administrative Law Judge Charles Haynes 0:00

Let's go ahead and go on the record. And good morning, everyone. Welcome back on day 21 in the matter of the application of Arizona Public Service Company for a hearing to determine the fair value of the utility property of the company for rate making purposes. to fix a just and reasonable rate of return thereon, and to approve rate schedules designed to develop such return. Docket number is E-01345A-25-0105. Administrative Law Judge Charles Haynes. And to start off, before we get back to where we left off on Thursday with the cross-examination of Mr. Moe, just to go back and check one first, see if there's any new procedural matters we needed to discuss. Parties

Unknown 0:47

your honor. I have one.

Administrative Law Judge Charles Haynes 0:48

Okay

Unknown 0:50

on Friday three of staffs witnesses are scheduled and Mr. Georges is coming in from out of town So we would request that he be a date certain on Friday

Administrative Law Judge Charles Haynes 1:01

Of those three he's the only one that you specifically want to be a date certain

Unknown 1:10

I Yes, the other two will be testifying via FedEx. WebEx. I'm sorry. FedEx. That'll be interesting. WebEx. It's still early. And I don't think we need to classify them as a date certain.

Administrative Law Judge Charles Haynes 1:29

All right. Anyone have any issues with Mr. Georges being a date certain for Friday? I'm not hearing anybody. All right, well, I'll pencil that in. I had a couple of procedural matters I was going to take up. We had the stipulation of the various testimonies last week, and it was only after I started punching those into my electronic copy that I realized For RUCO, a couple of these that I stipulated, RUCO 8 and RUCO 10 are actually confidential. So I'll take this opportunity to revise that they're hereby stipulated and admitted under seal. So make that clear.

Administrative Law Judge Charles Haynes 2:16

And with regard to the witnesses who did have the testimony admitted by stipulation, we didn't actually discuss it, but I just wanted to confirm that parties did not actually anticipate calling these witnesses when they were agreed to have these testimonies stipulated. I just want to confirm that's the case, since I did kind of blow past a couple of them, the citizen groups on last Wednesday, and I just wanted to make sure that everybody was in agreement that was the common understanding, so. Yes. Okay. And then likewise, today, we have calpines, Mr. Bass and Ruko, Miss Brown, those two, likewise, you're not intending to call them today. Okay. All right. And the last I think there was I'm trying to check.

Administrative Law Judge Charles Haynes 3:01

I think that was all that I had for today. One other thing hanging over from last week. It was brought to my attention that I perhaps need to go back to grammar school with regard to a clarification that was requested last week regarding the due date for the position statements on the grid access charge appeal. When I said by Wednesday, did not occur to me that means actually the end of the business day on wednesday rather than before the start of wednesday so uh miss scott uh mr perano uh you have until the end of the business day on wednesday to provide the position statements okay all right so that out of the way unless there's anything else all right mr mo i will remind you you are still under oath

Mr. Moe 3:50

yes your honor

Administrative Law Judge Charles Haynes 3:50

And we'll return where we left off in the examination, or at least the recross opportunities. And I think Microsoft, Mr. Atkin was next in the lineup. So I'll ask, Mr. Atkin, did you have any additional questions for this witness? I do not. Thank you, Your Honor. Okay. All right. Next up, I'll check Federal Executive Major Newton.

Unknown 4:16

No questions.

Administrative Law Judge Charles Haynes 4:18

All right. Freeport. Okay. And while this is just how the cookie crumbled, I do have in this point is where I have Arizona large customer groups. So Mr. Nelson.

Mr. Nelson 4:56

All right. Good morning, Mr. Mo.

Mr. Moe 4:58

Good morning. Happy Monday. I

Mr. Nelson 5:02

hope you had a lovely weekend and a nice Father's Day.

Mr. Moe 5:05

Thank you. Yes.

Mr. Nelson 5:09

Okay. I think for purposes of the recross, which I do have a few questions for you, sir, we're going to focus a fair bit on the new exhibits that you discussed with your counsel, Mr. Hesla, last week, and in particular 50 and 51. Do you have those handy still, sir? I do. Okay. And then if I may approach your...