Hearing - E-01345A-25-0105 - Arizona Public Service Company - Jun 24, 2026
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What is discussed at the start of this section?
All right, let's go ahead and go on the record this June twenty fourth, uh, day twenty-three in the application of Arizona Public Service for an increase to its rates and charges. Uh before we get started this morning I'll ask are there any procedural matters we need to address? Um oh okay, Mr. Wolsey.
Good morning, Your Honor. Just one scheduling question uh regarding the remainder of my cross exam for witness hobbik. So I understand we're doing witness barren first thing this morning and then I think we discussed that time permitting witness hobbik might be called back up before Mr. Sarver. Is that correct? That is correct. Um so I I I did want to flag I do have a a conflict with another matter between uh eleven AM and one thirty PM today. So I just wanted to ask in the event that we uh are not able to return to witness Hobbik before eleven AM, I just wanted to ask if I could be moved back in the list of of parties to to cross examine uh Miss Hobbik.
Uh, that's entirely fair and fine and I'm happy to accommodate that. So thank you for giving the heads up.
Thank you, Your Honor.
All right, uh Miss Bigelow.
Good morning, your honor. Um I just wanted to bring to your attention that APS did file a s a stipulation and updated witness schedule yesterday that includes my witness, James Crutchfield. Um, I did circulate among the parties um a question if anyone had cross examination um or if they would object to such a stipulation. And I did not receive any negative responses. So just pointing that out, thank you.
Um I was going to pick that up eventually here. I'll I'll ask. I did see the uh the stipulation or the uh motion to stipulate to the testimony of Mr. Crutchfield and uh who was the other one? There was oh uh Miss Howard. So uh were there any objections from any of the parties to the stipulation of those testimonies? Okay. Right. Pull this up again. So
So the testimonies in question would be IBEW three and Freeports F R one. And so there are no objections to the stipulation of either of those testimonies into the record? Nope. All right. Uh IBE W three. And FR one are hereby admitted pursuant to the party stipulations.
Right. All right. Uh was there anything else? Uh
no, nothing further. Thank you.
Okay.
Anything else from any other party? All right, in that case, I'll ask uh Mister Baim, are you ready to call your witness?
Yes, thank you, Your Honor. Kruger calls Steve Barron.
All right. Uh Mr Barron, uh hang on a second and we'll have the court reporter swear you in.
All
right.
Good morning. Can you please raise your right hand? Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes,
I do.
Thank you. Good morning, Mr Barron. Uh can you please uh state your name and business address for the record?
Yes. Uh my name is Stephen Barron. My business address is J period Kennedy and Associates Inc. And the address is Uh five seventy Colonial Park Drive Suite three zero five Roswell, Georgia, three zero zero seven five.
Did you um Did you prepare a testimony on behalf of the Kroger Company marked as Kroger Exhibit One in this procedure?
Yes, I did.
And um a correction was filed on May seventh to that testimony. Is that correct? That is correct, yes. And it's your understanding that that's that's the version that we'll be working from today? Correct. If I asked you the same questions that appear in that testimony, would your answers be the same?
Uh they would, yes.
Do you have any corrections to to that
testimony? Uh not that I'm aware of, no.
Thank you. Um Kroger moves for the admission of uh Kroger exhibit one.
Right. Are there any objections to the admission of Kroger One? There being no objections, Kroger one is hereby admitted.
Thank you, and Mr. Barron is um available for cross examination.
All right. Uh Mr Alman, any questions for Mr. Barron?
No. Thank you,
Your Honor. Okay. All right. And next up, uh, is there anyone before Erasia who has not previously indicated a desire to pose questions to Mr Barron that would like to do so?
Uh uh I'm I'm sorry, Your Honor.
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Agenda
8 items
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–21:57
2
How does the conversation shift to the rate‑design debate about energy vs. demand charges and their impact on customers?
21:57–2:18:26
3
When does the discussion move from rate design to procedural FRAM issues and exhibit admissions?
2:18:26–2:28:42
4
What is the proposed FRAM and how does it affect rate adjustments and direct pricing contracts?
2:28:42–2:59:37
5
How does APS plan to communicate seasonal bill impacts to customers across its service territory?
2:59:37–3:59:20
6
What are Wildfire’s concerns about the Energy Support Program and the proposed work‑group on arrearage management?
3:59:20–5:28:09
7
What scheduling decisions and deadline requests are being discussed at the beginning of this segment?
5:28:09–6:21:36
8
How does the witness explain the grid access charge, figure 6, and its comparison to other utilities?
6:21:36–7:36:23
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