Hearing - E-01933A-25-0103 - Tucson Electric Power Company Tucson

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What procedural matters and witness appearances are addressed at the beginning of the hearing?

Julia Motter 0:00

We're going to get started. Let's go on the record. Good morning. Welcome back to the Arizona Corporation Commission. I'm Julia Motter, the administrative law judge assigned to preside over this matter. And this is the time set for the continuation of the hearing in docket number E01933A-25-0103 involving the rate application of Tucson Electric Power Company. Okay. As we've been doing, I'm not gonna take formal appearances, but I will note for the record who's present. On behalf of TEP in the room is Mr. Patton. On Webex for the DoD and executive agent, federal executive agencies is Mr. Smith. No appearance on behalf of Pima County. Mr. Borman is not present for the city of Tucson as indicated. Mr. Bain is present on Webex on behalf of Kroger.

Julia Motter 1:01

Ms. Cavalia present on behalf of Walmart on Webex. No appearance on behalf of Tesla. Ms. Romanek on Webex on behalf of APS. Ms. Romanek, am I pronouncing your last name correctly?

Unknown 1:21

It's Romaniuk, but Romanik is okay too.

Julia Motter 1:24

Romaniuk, well, I will try to do it correctly. Thank you for that. Thank you. Mr. Adams, on behalf of Calpine. Ms. Johnson, on behalf of Aracia. Ms. Reyes, on behalf of AZPIRG, Wildfire Sweep, and the Citizens Groups. Ms. Varanes on behalf of IBEW Local 1116 on Webex. Mr. Corbin in the room. Mr. Dempsey on behalf of Underground Arizona on Webex. Mr. Crowley and Mr. Nelson in the room on behalf of the Arizona Large Customer Group. Ms. Hill has joined us on behalf of TEP. Mr. Black is in the room on behalf of Freeport Minerals and Hudbay Minerals. And Ms. Smith is on Webex. Mr. McCoy is on Webex on behalf of the state. In the room, we have Ms. Barrios-Cool on behalf of RUCO. And in the room on behalf of staff, we have Ms.

Julia Motter 2:44

Humphrey and online we have Mr. Golub. And Mr. Bodkin. Or we did. Okay. Yes, Your Honor, I'm here. Okay. Oh, and we also have Mr. Prano on behalf of the state. Okay. That is everyone. Preliminary matters, procedural issues. I have one that I'd like to go over. The parties have been doing a great job at making sure the witnesses have what they need in front of them. I assume there's a lot of behind the scenes talk happening to make that happen as smoothly as it has. Please remember that I am not a part of those conversations, so it is a surprise to me which exhibits you're using when crossing a witness. So I have everything available to me, but I may not have it right in front of me, like some of the witnesses.

Julia Motter 3:42

So please either do what Mr. Nelson's been doing. And at the start of your cross, say what you're going to be referring to so that I can pull it up quickly. Or if you're doing it as we go with a witness, don't just give the witness a minute to pull it up. Give me a minute, um, as well. I'm fairly organized, but if I don't know, it's going to take me a second. Okay. I know that Mr. McCoy has a procedural issue he would like to go over, so I will call on you first, Mr. McCoy. Everyone will get a chance.

Unknown 4:17

Yes, good morning, Your Honor. I was wondering if we get to Mr. Rademacher this morning at around 10 a.m., if it would be possible for me to cross-examine him first.

Julia Motter 4:31

I can't imagine anyone would object to that. Ms. Baranes, is that? No.

Unknown 4:42

No objection.

Julia Motter 4:43

Okay. Someone tell me if they have an issue with that. Your

Unknown 4:49

Honor, I actually was going to raise a procedural question in regards to Mr. Rademacher also. I have a number of questions for him, but since many other witnesses are directly dealing with the aram i actually thought it would make more sense for them to go first so i'd prefer to go after them so to the extent that matters at all i think that would be really helpful thank you

Julia Motter 5:08

okay all right mr mccoy i'm not hearing anyone object to you going first and we will move miss johnson later great

Unknown 5:22

thank you your honor i appreciate

Julia Motter 5:23

it Does anyone have anything else along a similar lines in terms of the order of questioning Mr. Rademacher?

Unknown 5:32

Your Honor, just as a heads up, we're going to do a little bit of direct for Mr. Rademacher beyond just a very brief summary to some of the questions deferred to him. And then as we did in UNS gas, and I thought it was helpful, have him sort of walk through the protocols and the template at a high level, just