Hearing - E-01933A-25-0103 - Tucson Electric Power Company **Tucson**
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What attendees are recorded at the start of the hearing?
let's go on the record good morning again everyone welcome back to the arizona corporation commission my name is julia mater i'm the administrative law judge assigned to preside over this matter and this is the time set for the continuation of the hearing in tep's rate case docket number e01933a-25-0103 As we've been doing, we're not going to take formal appearances. I'm just going to note for the record who's present. On behalf of TP in the room, we have Mr. Patton, Mr. Carroll, and Ms. Hill. On WebEx, on behalf of the DOD and all federal executive agencies, we have Mr. Smith. No appearance on behalf of Pima County. In the room, we have Mr. Borman on behalf of the city of Tucson. On WebEx, we have Mr. Boehm on behalf of Kroger.
On behalf of Walmart on Webex, we have Ms. Cavalia. And those on Webex can't hear anything. I can hear fine, actually. I
can also hear.
I can hear you. All right. Ms. Johnson? I don't know what to say since you can't hear me anyways. Okay. No appearance on behalf of Tesla. On Webex, we have Ms. Romaniuk on Webex. On Webex, we have Mr. Adams on behalf of CALPINE. We have Ms. Johnson on Webex on behalf of ARCIA. We have Ms. Langowski and Ms. Reyes on behalf of AZPERG, Wildfire Sweep, and the Citizens Groups. On Webex, we have Ms. Bustamante, and in person, we have Ms. Varanez on behalf of IBW Local 1116. In the room, we have Mr. Corbin. In the room, we have Mr. Dempsey on behalf of Underground Arizona. In the room, we have Mr. Crowley and Mr. Nelson on behalf of the Arizona Large Customer Group. In the room, we have Mr. Black on behalf of Freeport Minerals and Hudbay Minerals.
And on line, Ms. Smith. for the same line. Oh, online we have Mr. Prano on behalf of the state. And in the room we have Ms. Barrios-Cool on behalf of RUCO. And in the room on behalf of staff, Humphrey and online we have Mr. Golub and Mr. Bodkin. Okay, and that covers everyone. So we'll start with any preliminary matters or procedural issues that anyone would like to cover. We will start in the room first. Mr. Patton.
Thank you, Your Honor. If it appears we are going to be really squeezed towards the end, it looks like a lot of the attorneys are here pretty early, so, and I don't know what your honor's morning schedule is, but we could start maybe at 8.30 to, at some point, if that will help move things along. Obviously no commitment now, and get people thinking about that as a potential option.
I was thinking about that on the drive-in this morning. So let's all ponder an 8.30 start for the duration. If there are certain days that that doesn't work, that might be okay. But if we can do that most of the days, that may help this situation we find ourselves in. So everyone ponder that. And when we come back from lunch, everyone can tell me their thoughts on that. Thank you, Mr. Patton.
I think we'll have a better idea after Thursday on where we stand on witnesses and how we're moving along okay
all right anything else from someone in the room okay how about on webex
uh thank you your honor uh this is kurt bain with kroger um could mr patton go through the schedule um for the day
mr patton
We'll finish up with Mr. Rademacher. We'll move on to Ms. Morales for IBEW, then Mr. Bass for Alpine, and then we will put Mrs. Peterson on with the time we have left. After Ms. Peterson, we're intending to put Ms. Gunderson on. I don't know that we'll get her today, but she may go on Thursday if we finish up early.
Okay. And I think that's probably a pretty ambitious schedule for the day, but that will be our goal.
Thank
you. Okay. Anything else from anyone on WebEx? Nope. Okay. Mr. Rademacher, you were sworn in before you started your testimony yesterday, and I will remind you that you are still under oath. Okay. And we will pick up with Ms. Barrios-Cool.
Thank you, Your Honor. Good morning, Mr. Rademacher.
Good morning.
You're the VP for Finance and Rates for TEP?
That's correct.
And what is the title that you carry with respect to TEP's affiliate, UNS Gas?
Same title.
Would you agree that your role here today is to, in part, answer technical questions about the ARAM?
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Agenda
8 items
1
What attendees are recorded at the start of the hearing?
0:00–17:15
2
How do the parties discuss the ARAM template and its relationship to the UNS‑Gas decision?
17:15–1:06:07
3
What issues are raised about the ARAM’s impact on capital structure, regulatory lag, and rate‑payer benefits?
1:06:07–2:29:39
4
How is the System Reliability Benefit (SRB) compared to the ARAM and what are the arguments about its effectiveness?
2:29:39–4:35:15
5
What documentation and data requests were discussed regarding Roadrunner costs?
4:35:15–5:07:47
6
How is the deadband size determined and what are its financial impacts?
5:07:47–6:01:08
7
Who qualifies as an interested party in the ARAM process?
6:01:08–6:47:45
8
How does the ARAM formula rate template handle fair‑value increments and ROE?
6:47:45–8:02:15
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