Hearing - E-01933A-25-0103 - Tucson Electric Power Company Tucson - May 11, 2026

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What procedural matters and official notices are addressed at the start of the hearing?

Julia Motter 0:01

Let's go on the record. Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to the Arizona Corporation Commission. I'm Julia Motter, the Administrative Law Judge assigned to preside over this matter. This is day 13 in TEP's rate case, docket number ending 250103. Before we get started with witnesses, we'll go over a couple procedural things. When we had ended on Friday, I had asked the parties to consider whether they had an objection to my taking of official notice of Pima County's filing from last week that included the Pima County Board of Supervisors resolution and also the data center related docket, the docket ending 250069. So I will ask at this time whether any of the parties have an objection to that. All right.

Julia Motter 0:58

Hearing none, official notice is taken of Pima County's filing and the data center docket ending 25-0069. I had also asked for the company to give an update on its intended, uh, response and the timing thereof to, uh, commissioner Walden's.

Mr. Patton 1:22

Yes. Thank you, your honor. Uh, we have it prepared. It should be docketed mid morning at the latest today. We're gonna docket it. We're also gonna mark it as an exhibit and introduce. Okay. Thank you.

Julia Motter 1:35

All right. Anything else procedural in nature to discuss? before we get started. Yes, Ms. Johnson.

Ms. Johnson 1:46

Your Honor, I just wanted to let you and Mr. Patton know that Mr. Lucas intends to finalize his additional analysis this morning. We plan to upload those work papers as soon as they're complete and get that filed soon thereafter. So he should be ready to go tomorrow morning.

Julia Motter 2:02

Okay. Thank you, Ms. Johnson. Anything else? Do you have something, Mr. Smith?

Mr. Smith 2:12

I have a question, Your Honor, related to transcripts, because I'm just trying to clarify something that I thought I heard earlier in the proceeding. Is there some sort of agreement that TEP is providing the transcripts to the parties? Did I hear that previously?

Julia Motter 2:30

I highly doubt it, but I will let Mr. Patton is shaking his head.

Mr. Smith 2:35

Okay, thank you. I wanted to run that down because I thought that something was said earlier that said something different than that, so thank you.

Julia Motter 2:43

Okay, and we can discuss transcripts a little bit more when we discuss briefs if necessary, but for those who are starting to feel concerned about it, I will let you know that I will accept citations, references to the audio recording in lieu of a transcript. Yes, Mr. Adams?

Mr. Adams 3:04

Good morning. My notes indicated that you may also be taking official notice of the large loads docket, and maybe you already did that and I missed it, but I just wanted to confirm that that was also being taken official notice

Julia Motter 3:19

of. So I called it the data center docket. I think the large load docket would probably be a better characterization, but it's the docket ending 25-0069, and I have taken official notice of that docket.

Mr. Adams 3:35

Okay,

Mr. Nelson 3:38

thank

Mr. Adams 3:38

you.

Julia Motter 3:39

Yes, Mr. Nelson.

Mr. Nelson 3:40

Just one small thing. I know we're all hopeful that we'll be able to finish on Tuesday or if not shortly thereafter. And so I was wondering if there was appetite for a discussion about starting earlier tomorrow to try to give us a little extra time.

Julia Motter 3:57

I think that's a worthwhile thought and 830 start tomorrow. Any objections? Okay, I'm not seeing any. So, yep, we can plan to start tomorrow at 8.30. And if we need to start on Wednesday at all, we will discuss that at the right time. Anything else? All right, with that, Ruko can call its first witness.

Ms. Barrios-Cool 4:33

Thank you, Your Honor, and good morning. Ruko calls Director Cynthia Zwick to the stand.

Courtroom Deputy 4:39

You can come forward.

Courtroom Deputy 4:49

Please raise your

Julia Motter 4:49

right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? And make sure that green light is on. You'll just want to tap it and then give it a few seconds for the light to turn.

Ms. Barrios-Cool 5:07

Okay, and I recognize there's a sea of binders in front of you. If you'll start by locating the RUCO binder book one. One. Right. Good morning. Would you please state your name for the record and your position?

Cynthia Zwick 5:29

Sure. My name is Cynthia Zwick, and I serve as director of the Residential Utility Consumer Office, or RUCO.