Hearing - WS-01303A-24-0130 - Epcor Water Arizona Inc. - Jul 30, 2026
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What is the opening record and who is called to testify?
Good morning everybody. We are back on the record. And I believe that staff oh wait, no, I'm sorry. Mr. Gelman told me that he has something to clear up on the record.
Yeah, it's I'm sorry, Your Honor. I misspoke yesterday when I said we had all the transcripts of the Lipstical case. Turns out we have a couple of days of the transcript. But uh Miss Berrios Kool was gracious enough to lend me a copy of Miss uh the the portion of the The transcript with Miss Hunsaker's testimony. We figured it out and I think this is more of a staff Ruko thing anyway. So I think we've we're good. Okay.
Ready to proceed. Okay, very good. Thank you. Um so staff.
Yes, Your Honor.
Would you like to call Miss Hansaker?
Uh yes, Your Honor. Um Eli Gollup, attorney for staff. I call Teresa Huntsaker as staff witness.
Thank you.
I'll let you get settled. Are you ready?
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Sure.
Yeah, I was about to ask the same.
Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Thank you.
You know what, I don't. And that was next. That was my next list. So I don't have any of staff's exhibits six to write. I've got to that list yet.
Step.
Okay.
It's okay. It's only two parts I have an index.
Let's give her a second. Are are you ready?
I am now.
Okay. All right, we're ready, Alright.
Go ahead.
Okay, I think oh you were sworn in before, right? Correct. Okay. All right. Can you please state your name and and uh where you were?
Teresa B. Hunsaker and I work for the Arizona Corporation Commission in the utilities division.
And that's here at this address on twelve hundred West Washington Street. Correct. Thank you. And um What what is your uh What is your title?
public utilities um manager.
Okay, thank you. And how long have you been with the ACC?
Almost thirteen years.
Thank you. Um and could you describe your responsibilities as uh a public utility manager?
So I oversee and supervise the analysts that um perform the duties of uh of rate applications, financing, CCN applications. Um we also do the sufficiency on some of the larger utilities like APS, Southwest Gas. Um we under we oversee any type of compliance requirements that require staff's review of financial records. So I oversee um the work product as well as review the reports that are produced from my uh staff as well as what we propose to put before the commission through memos and orders that are then taken commissions for decisions.
All right, thank you. In your role as utilit public utility manager, did you review the application of Epcore for a rate increase in this matter?
Um that I was one of my staff was responsible for
I'm getting a um alert that you need to be closer to the microphone. You can bend it down so that it
Okay. Is that
better? And yeah, and I maybe you too, because it says speaker. I don't I'm not sure which one. I'll
keep it closer, Your Honor.
Okay, great, thank you. Mm
will you repeat the question, please?
Uh sure you sure. Um and you uh I'd asked you uh whether in your role as public utility manager you would re review the application of Epcor for a rate increase in this matter.
Um yes, I had sta staff assigned um that worked on this um the original phase one proceeding. Um and I was um my role in this proceeding is the phase two for the formula rates.
Okay, thank you. Um and did you file direct testimony in response to the application um which uh has been marked exhibit proposed staff exhibit s six?
Yes.
Okay, thank you. Um Did you file supplemental direct testimony in response to the application? Um As proposed uh which which has been labeled pr uh staff proposed exhibit S seven.
Yes.
Okay, thank you. And uh and did you file surrebutal testimony in response to uh the application as proposed w which has been marked staff proposed exhibit s eight? Yes. And could you briefly describe what issues your testimony addressed?
My um testimony addresses uh the company's proposed ARAM um plan of administration or as they refer to it as their protocols. Uh additionally staff's review of the templates and um also response um to Mr.
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Agenda
8 items
1
What is the opening record and who is called to testify?
0:00–20:26
2
How does Ms. Hunsaker describe her role and responsibilities at the ACC?
20:26–26:15
3
What are the key points of the ARAM discussion – deadband, gradualism, and rate impacts?
26:15–2:07:41
4
What is staff’s position on risk reduction and the timing of the ARAM implementation?
2:07:41–3:28:59
5
How does staff determine the filing dates and timing of future rate cases under the ARAM?
3:28:59–4:11:41
6
Why does staff recommend a 10‑20 basis‑point adjustment to EPCOR’s ROE?
4:11:41–4:26:35
7
How does the ARAM compare to other rate‑recovery mechanisms like revenue decoupling and capital trackers?
4:26:35–5:30:32
8
What staff processes and data‑sharing tools (e.g., SharePoint portals, discovery questions) are used to support ARAM updates?
5:30:32–7:06:41
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