Aaron Gordon
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104 appearances
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard Apr 2025
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All right, so what I said on Simmons' podcast last week was that I don't think he's going to go in the first round, and yet you're not going to hear that being vocalized. Like, it's just not worth it. The juice is not worth the squeeze.
And what I meant was, look, we don't know that, so it's safer to put any quarterback in the first round when they're being rumored as a first-round quarterback, even if you're hearing you don't have a team necessarily. And in the case of Shador – I think a lot of people were pulling for him to go in the first round in the media. And I'm not speaking on behalf of anybody else.
I just know Dion has been an icon for all of us growing up. He's also been a colleague of many of the people in the media. He worked at NFL Network for 15 years. He also has been with CBS. He's worked with ESPN. He's got a documentary on Amazon. He does stuff. He does his own show with Tubi. He does a lot of interviews. So it's like, what's the win if you think- He does barstool. Of course he did.
No joke. I've totally forgot about that. The college stuff that you guys did with him. So it's like you start thinking about it and you're like, all right, so he's a borderline first round pick. And I do a mock draft. I put him 21 to the Steelers. I do one mock draft. And you would have thought I had put him going in the seventh round, the response. And it wasn't from Dion.
But the media started believing that, all right, he'll go somewhere in the first round. But my job is different than Lewis Riddick or Mel Kriper or Daniel Jeremiah. My job is to get on the phones and get things from the teams. And I did not have a single team who was like, if Shador falls to us, we're taking him. Right. So... I went through the different teams that needed quarterbacks.
I put them to the Steelers on a hope and a prayer. And I went on get up on Thursday morning and said, guys, I literally put a blindfold on and pointed to the Steelers and said, if any coach can unilaterally say like, he's my guy, I'm taking him. It's Tomlin. They needed a quarterback. And I know his meeting went really well with them two weeks ago. Like, I know it. He went there Friday.
He was there for five hours. They loved him. And Arthur Smith liked him. Tomlin liked him. So I'm like, it makes sense. But in the same breath on that episode of Get Up, guys, I was like, or he's not getting drafted in the first round. Right. And then it starts. Now, that's all good. I never, never thought he would slip to day three.
But in the aftermath of it, you start doing it out and you're like, all right, if a guy comes in, he's like every interview saying, I'm going to change your franchise. I'm going to change your culture. And I've got all this stuff that comes with it. As a starter, you're like, yeah, let's go. But now you're talking about backup.
It's almost less easy to find a spot to be a backup than it is to be a starter. Right. My last thing on Shador, and we can get into all the aftermath of the prank call and everything, was such an unorthodox, untraditional, unprecedented prospect in the fact that he played for his dad in high school, played for his dad at Jackson State, played for his dad at Colorado.
It was, you know, you go up to Boulder, everyone tells you like Dion has that thing dialed in, but it's unlike any other program. You know, Bruce Feldman had a quote where he was explaining, like, you go in there, Dion just runs it all. And who could talk to the kid who could talk to this one?
And like, it's, it's a party, but it's also a very unorthodox situation up there with how Dion was running it. Then he accepts an invite to the East-West Shrine game, and then the NFL sends out a memo. It's like you have to practice and decides not to practice or play in the game.
Goes to the combine, interviews with teams, and then doesn't work out, which a lot of people have not done, but doesn't do it. And also declined an opportunity to go to the Senior Bowl, declined the Big 12 workout. So you have this unorthodox prospect, and you wouldn't do all that stuff unless you're a first-round pick. Like Caleb Williams can do that stuff. Andrew Luck can do that stuff.
If you're not a surefire top pick, usually you want to throw and you want to work out and you want to do all this stuff. So it was just an unorthodox thing, but I don't think anyone saw it sliding down to the fifth round. And when he finally was drafted, I think it was a relief for everyone because A, it sucks for the kid. B, it sucks for all the people who are watching it.
And C, it sucked for the media who all said to the viewers that he was going to be a first round pick.
Yeah.
So I've heard that multiple places, and I was listening to Rosillo and McShay last night on McShay's podcast. I got back from the draft, and I'm like, I need to unwind. So what am I going to do? I'm going to listen to more draft talk, and they were recapping it all. And I heard Todd listing out what he heard, and then that was – And I think a lot of people said they heard that story too.
I talked to the Giants daily and I, and I'll tell you, I have not heard that. If what I have heard is that they love Jackson Dart since January. So like this thing, like Dable, like that was his guy. So he loved neighbors last year in the draft and was basically like, that's my guy. And as much as Joe Shane and the staff was with Shador and all that stuff, like, Dable's dude was Dart.
I did not hear anything of an altercation. And I don't know if it was with Dion or Shador, but as someone who's covering it objectively, and look, I'm not saying there wasn't something because everyone's got different sources, but my contact with the Giants, my conversation with the Giants, that was no such thing. And they actually liked Shador a lot. It just wasn't even a debate.
It was Shador or Dart, and it was Dart from pretty much January in Dable's eyes.
Yeah. And I will say this, Tom Pellicero, who's a very good reporter there in NFL Network, came out with his annual column where it's here's 12,000 words on everything. And he had the anonymous quote on Wednesday or Tuesday where it was like it was the worst formal interview I've ever seen. It was anonymous. And everyone's reaction was F this anonymous scout. And why would Tom post this?
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