Aaron Levie
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first heard Jul 2025
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But like this is a thing that is sort of like
We are assuming that the general knowledge of the world is going to be trained into these models and that general knowledge, whether it comes from Reddit or it comes from anthropic, is like I don't see the distinction be between those in any meaningful way.
Anthropic is getting paid more for distillation than most people have ever gotten paid for the original training runs.
So and if you kind of like you almost kind of do a thought experiment of like, well, what's the difference between distillation in a very direct like I'm using the API across 10,000 accounts versus just quite literally if we all generate code from Fable or GPT five six and all that code ends up in public repos, what's the kind of compelling difference between those two scenarios that a model
Will get trained against.
And I'm not sure I at least understand why there'd be arguments, why there'd be some kind of ethical line between those two.
And then you kind of layer in another element, which is I think there's a lot of people that argue that actually China in this case are doing kind of breakthrough innovation in general, independent of distillation that's causing models to progress.
But also I'm sure that there's gonna be other kind of controversies and conspiracies about what's happening.
And I don't know enough to be able to kind of credibly argue.
that other things are or are not happening and why these models are progressing.
I'll let obviously the labs to make those cases and the government to kind of pursue that as they see fit.
But all of that to me is independent of do we want open weights models and do we want this innovation in general from the ecosystem.
I think the the best case scenario personally would be
You get a few people that are at a stage in life where they can just be like, Yep, I'm gonna drop ten billion dollars on building an open lab in America and and we have our own version of, you know, Moonshot.
Like I think that would be a great service to America and to innovation in general.
So I've been kinda waiting for the date that, you know, somebody does that, but you know, for now still waiting.
Well there's a Cat Nuggets
And I think those are great arguments, but it's like, okay, so what do you do about that?
You know, some people say that the iPhone should cost five thousand dollars instead of a thousand dollars because we shouldn't, you know, rely on manufacturing advancements that exist in China.
Like, I don't know.
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