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Aaron Retica

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The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

We're going to retake the Panama Canal. There was a bizarre section about Greenland.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

We're going to retake the Panama Canal. There was a bizarre section about Greenland.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

So how do they use this rhetoric and make it reality, right? They're doing it in some ways, right? Even the ridiculous... Contra-temp about the Gulf of America and the Gulf of Mexico, right, ended up having real-world consequences for the Associated Press, right, because they wouldn't toe the line, and now they're out.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

So how do they use this rhetoric and make it reality, right? They're doing it in some ways, right? Even the ridiculous... Contra-temp about the Gulf of America and the Gulf of Mexico, right, ended up having real-world consequences for the Associated Press, right, because they wouldn't toe the line, and now they're out.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

Yeah. I mean, I think it's a cross between the Andrew Jackson that he supposedly idolized in the first administration and, as everyone's been saying, including him, and he mentioned him again last night, William McKinleyβ€”

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

Yeah. I mean, I think it's a cross between the Andrew Jackson that he supposedly idolized in the first administration and, as everyone's been saying, including him, and he mentioned him again last night, William McKinleyβ€”

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

who, could he hear all this, would be surprised to find himself as the center of the movement of anything. But what is the fusion between those two things, right? It's domination over the environment, which we haven't talked about, but that's a huge part of what they want to, right? We're going to drill a baby drill. We're going to have gas. We're going to cut all the timber, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

who, could he hear all this, would be surprised to find himself as the center of the movement of anything. But what is the fusion between those two things, right? It's domination over the environment, which we haven't talked about, but that's a huge part of what they want to, right? We're going to drill a baby drill. We're going to have gas. We're going to cut all the timber, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

And that's part of that frontier spirit that you're talking about. We're just going to cut the trees down. You have, in Jackson's case, the... or case of the president defying the Supreme Court. And Jackson, of course, he didn't fully not do what the Supreme Court said, but he basically did ignore them, and hence the Trail of Tears.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

And that's part of that frontier spirit that you're talking about. We're just going to cut the trees down. You have, in Jackson's case, the... or case of the president defying the Supreme Court. And Jackson, of course, he didn't fully not do what the Supreme Court said, but he basically did ignore them, and hence the Trail of Tears.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

So I think it's some kind of mixture of the Jacksonian democracy, right? And he always makes his little gestures toward that. And this McKinley idea that you protect America with tariffs, which then allows you to build up your dominance. There was a lot of chatter about the return of manufacturing to the United States. And those two things, I do think it's a 19th century model for sure.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

So I think it's some kind of mixture of the Jacksonian democracy, right? And he always makes his little gestures toward that. And this McKinley idea that you protect America with tariffs, which then allows you to build up your dominance. There was a lot of chatter about the return of manufacturing to the United States. And those two things, I do think it's a 19th century model for sure.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

Speaking of reality not having the structure that you want it to have, I do want to talk for a minute about the one Democrat he apparently likes. And that's Robert Kennedy Jr., Robert F. Kennedy Jr., It's all connected to this like pro-system, anti-system idea, right? I mean, you, in defending semiconductors, right? Again, you have to explain.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

Speaking of reality not having the structure that you want it to have, I do want to talk for a minute about the one Democrat he apparently likes. And that's Robert Kennedy Jr., Robert F. Kennedy Jr., It's all connected to this like pro-system, anti-system idea, right? I mean, you, in defending semiconductors, right? Again, you have to explain.

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

There's a long chain of explanation to show what supply chains are. And in Kennedy, he is in some ways the perfect embodiment of this whole thing because it's the rejection of expertise on the one hand and the rejection of government and destruction and all this. So do you... Think he can bring in like everyone who's against the system?

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

There's a long chain of explanation to show what supply chains are. And in Kennedy, he is in some ways the perfect embodiment of this whole thing because it's the rejection of expertise on the one hand and the rejection of government and destruction and all this. So do you... Think he can bring in like everyone who's against the system?

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

So even these moms who are against vaccines and is there a way for him to make that a coherent way of dominating America and dominating the world?

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

So even these moms who are against vaccines and is there a way for him to make that a coherent way of dominating America and dominating the world?

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

We could have a whole show about this, but falling outs among elites and the manipulation of populist sentiment, that is in some ways the whole story, right? Always. Whether it's any aspect of American history, like that's a big one, right? But we're going to have a gigantic experiment, which, you know, huge swaths of the government are

The Ezra Klein Show
This Trump Speech Was the Ultimate Loyalty Test

We could have a whole show about this, but falling outs among elites and the manipulation of populist sentiment, that is in some ways the whole story, right? Always. Whether it's any aspect of American history, like that's a big one, right? But we're going to have a gigantic experiment, which, you know, huge swaths of the government are