Aaron Smith-Levin

If you're going to say that, we're going to say you're not a religion.

And they actually put in writing to the IRS, no, no, no, no, no, that's not what we meant.

That's not what we meant.

We meant in the beginning, you can be both, but eventually you just have to be a Scientologist.

So it would be all of that because survival is the dominant force across all the dynamics.

That, I mean, L. Ron Hubbard, it was either Dianetics or Science of Survival.

He says he discovered the principle upon which all life exists.

And that is all life, no matter what it is trying to do.

Are you ready, Lex?

It's trying to survive.

But here's the thing, Lex.

Here's the thing.

It is consistent with prior efforts or studies.

It's just that L. Ron Hubbard said this was a watershed breakthrough that was being discovered for the first time.

That's kind of what I'm mocking, really.

But did he claim to be the first person to ever say it?

That's the only thing I'm really mocking is this discovery that life is trying to survive is greater than the discovery of fire.

Okay.

I mean, it gets a little silly, but that's fine.

We can agree that the fact that life is trying to survive has meaning and is meaningful and is valuable.