Aaron Smith-Levin

And so the very people who are publishing about Shelley Miscavige missing have contributed to the fact that Shelley Miscavige does no longer speak to those family members.

because she thinks they're talking to the press when they never have.

It's pretty messed up.

Yeah.

So...

I believe the information that I have, that I verified, I'm putting out, I'm the one representing it's true without revealing my sources.

That Shelley was still actively in touch regularly with family members outside of the C organization since about, until about 2014.

So I mean regularly, okay?

So there's no question about her safety during that period.

And then someone else who knew Shelly very well did see her and actually have a conversation with her in a public place in 2019 or 2020.

Now somebody could still come along and be like, how do we know she's okay?

It's been three years.

Yeah, okay, you could say that about anybody.

The nature of working in the highest levels of Scientology management at these super secretive bases, it's a very weird and unique situation.

It has isolation baked in.

information oh they wouldn't want to leak they're true believers they see they see like there's a there's sort of a conspiracy theory that runs right through all of scientology

which is that Scientology represents like an existential threat to the powers that really control this planet.

Xenu embodied in- It's actually sort of a multifaceted conspiracy in that on the one hand, L. Ron Hubbard points his fingers at like the international bankers.

Okay.

Which has shades of anti-Semitism to it.