Abby Ellin

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100 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Feb 2025 last heard Feb 2025

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If he can lie about that, he can lie about anything. I mean, he used his dead mother's name. He used his dead father's name. He used, I think, his aunt. He used my name. All these people. It was absolutely crazy-making.
Listen, I've always craved drama, and I got it. I got it.
Yeah, I'm in my 50s, and I have been a freelance writer since. Since I'm like 22.
I was interested in people's story. I was interested in gossip. I was interested in people's lives. I just wanted to know how things worked. And I also was always interested in getting to the bottom of things.
Well, they would put the kids in the control room and you could see all of the monitors and you could see what was happening. And I remember pointing to that with the kid next to me. I was like, check it out. Like, there's no magic. And he was really upset. He was like, I don't want to know that, you know.
I hate magic tricks. I hate going to magic shows. I need to know how they do things.
I could have gotten a job as an assistant to an editor. But I thought, what am I going to learn about writing from picking up somebody's dry cleaning? Nothing. What am I going to learn from faxing their correspondence? Nothing. I didn't want to do that.
Is he a jerk? Are you a control freak? I mean, those kind of things. I didn't give a shit. I mean, I hated that stuff. And I just got terrified that I was going to get stuck doing that.
And I wrote a big story about that. It was a full page in the New York Times. I framed it. And I thought, that's that. Never going to happen again. Well... The editor who I wrote that for called me up one day and he said, we're starting a column.
My mother is really a super feminist and has always been profoundly independent and has always been like what women need is their own money no matter what. They all need their own money, you know? So she wanted me to always have my own space.
I, you know, had my boyfriend and then we broke up and then I had other boyfriends. And I continued to work and I continued to travel and I kind of never really wanted to get married per se. That wasn't my agenda. I didn't want to be tethered to somebody all the time.
One was a guy I met in Peru. He was a furniture maker, and he was great, but that didn't work out. A couple guys in the theater, I mean, just different, nice. I mean, they were fine. They were fine people. But I wanted something that mattered.
If you've been single a little while, you know, sometimes you're just like, oh God, maybe I should go out with somebody who I never thought I'd be with just because maybe I've been barking up the wrong tree all this time.
I was brought up Jewish. I thought I've always dated non-Jewish guys. Maybe I need to be with somebody who's Jewish. Maybe that's what I need.
Oh, God. Carmela, the psychic from Yonkers. That's what she sounded like.
And she was like, you're going to meet somebody. You're going to move. His first initial is going to be R, P, B, or D. And he's going to wear a uniform. And I said, I don't know anybody in uniform other than the FedEx guy. And he was like, no, that's not the FedEx guy.
I was working on an article for The New York Times about detox diets and whether or not they had any validity or whether they were just kind of bullshit. And somebody suggested I call this guy who worked in Beverly Hills, California, who was a doctor there. He had written some articles or studies about detox diets.
I quoted him and we had a nice conversation and that was the end of it.
And I said, are you still in Beverly Hills? And he said, no, I'm in the Navy. I'm a Navy doc.
He was working on opening up a hospital for kids with cancer in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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