Adam Frank
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
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Was it refurbished recently? Yeah. In every spectral wavelength, in all of its data collection and processing, you have to know all of those steps and have them all characterized. Because especially if you want to claim like, oh my God, I saw something take a right-hand turn at Mach 500, right? You better have all of that nailed down before you make that kind of claim.
So we have to have characterized detectors looking up, down, and maybe on planes themselves. We need a rational search strategy. So let's say you want to lay out these ground-based detectors, where do you put them? There's only so much money in the world.
Do you want to put them near places where you've seen a lot of things beforehand or do you want to have them try and do a sparse coverage of the entire country? Then you need the data analysis.
You're going to have so much data, so many false positives or false triggering that you need a way of sorting through enormous amounts of data and figuring out what you're going to throw out and what you're going to keep. All of these things we're used to doing in other scientific enterprises.
And without that, if we don't do that, we're going to be having the same damn argument about these things for, you know, the next hundred years.
Oh God, looking out, looking out because that's the best, you know, as I always like to say, here's my, my codification of this. If you said, Hey Adam, I'd like to find some Nebraskans. And I said, Oh good. Let's go to the Himalayas. You know, you'd be like, why am I going there? I'm like, well, you know, maybe there's some Himalaya, you know, some Nebraska's in Himalaya.
Say no, no, let's go to Nebraska. If we're looking for aliens. Hmm. why don't we look on alien planets where they live? Cause that's, we have that technology now, as opposed to the, you know, the, the bucket of assumptions that you have to come up with in order to say like, oh, they're here right now. You know, they just happen to be here right now.
And also the very important thing, I called this the high beam argument. You know, to deal with the UFO stuff, you have to deal with all of... You have to answer these weird, irrational things that are happening. Like, okay, there's an advanced civilization that is visiting Earth regularly. They don't want to be detected.
They've got super powerful technology, but they really suck at using it because we keep seeing them. We keep seeing them, but then they disappear, right? I mean, explain to me what rational world that works under. It's like... You know, so there's that whole sort of argument you've got to explain, like, why, if they want to stay hidden, are they so bad at it?
So, you know, that's why I take that level of difficulty, and then I put it on top of, where should I look? I should look at the, you know, I should look at where they're from. That makes me want to look at, do the telescopic stuff.
Absolutely. Listen, that's why again, I think UAP, absolutely UAP should be studied scientifically. But if I had to make a bet and it's just a bet, I would say this is pure state adversary stuff. When I did – I did a New York Times op-ed for this in 2021, which blew up. And so I had a lot of people talking to me.
While I was doing that, I sort of looked at the signals intelligence people, the SIGINT and EINT, electronic intelligence communities, and what they were saying about the New York Times articles and the – the various videos and really none of them were talking about UFOs. They were all talking about, you know, peer state.
That's where I learned the word peer state adversaries, how like even simple drone technologies you can, you know, and you want to, you purposely want to do this. You want to, um, fake, you know, signals into the electronics, uh, of their adversary. So they crank it up. So then you can just soak up all the electromagnetic radiation and know exactly what those advanced radars can do.
Right, a robot ant.
This is the plot, actually, of a great science fiction book called Eon by Greg Baer. And the idea was like these sort of, you know, this is actually where my first, I got, I became sort of more than agnostic, anti-Medi. Because the idea is that, yes, our aliens come. They, you know, they sort of make their arrival. And really their point is to get rid of us. It's the dark forest hypothesis. Yeah.
And what they do is they sort of literally, the way they present themselves is in this sort of classic UFO thing. And they do it and they, you know, they arrive at the, this was during the Soviet Union. They arrive at the USSR. They arrive in China. And they're kind of faking us out so that we never can organize ourselves against.
So it was really, they did exactly kind of what you're talking about, but for nefarious purposes. Yeah.
The whole conversation is bogs before breakfast.
I made the claim that the most important, that finding life, any kind of life, would be the most important discovery in human history. And one of the reasons is, again, as I said, that, you know, life, if we're not an accident and there's other life, then there's probably lots of other life. And because the most significant thing about life is it can innovate, right?
If I give you a star and, you know, tell you the mass and the composition, you can basically pretty much, using the laws of physics, tell exactly what's going to happen to that star over its entire lifetime. Maybe not the little tiny details, but overall, it's going to be a white dwarf, it's going to be a black hole, end of story.
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