Adam Hogue

I think he likes him, you know, in the building, but you know, how does he view him as a piece in executing these plays?

And we know how much the details and all this stuff matters.

And he's got a vision for all these guys.

Now I think he can find a way to keep using him, but that's sort of the unknown question and answer.

What does Ben Johnson truly feel about DJ more as purely as a, as a weapon in his scheme?

I, I,

And no one's ever going to come out and probably say that out loud.

But the actions and how this all gets handled, either this offseason or the offseason after that, I think we will eventually learn the answer to that question.

Well, it was very specific.

Seth Walder does a great job at ESPN, had a list of his top 100 players, specifically in terms of MVP.

So if he were to rank the top 100 players that he would vote for for MVP, and he had all this criteria, and Caleb wasn't on that list.

um at all if you want at all in the top 100 but not only that like he had cj stroud at 37 um i just and the point the point that we got into a little bit and i don't have it all in front of you but you know i think sometimes what happens with these analytics and i am somebody that quotes epa all the time like i enjoy analytics i find the value in um

But when we kind of go overboard where we're cherry-picking some of these numbers, whether it's completion percentage over expected or missed target rate or whatever it is, which was some of the things he was pointing out where Caleb was just middle of the pack or I think in –

Miss target rate.

If I'm quoting that directly, I think he was actually dead last.

Look, we all know he has to get more accurate, but at what point does coming back in seven games where you're losing under two minutes matter?

Like what point does, what point does,

Everything he did in the fourth quarter all season count.

Like sometimes the analytics just, they don't tell the whole story.

The tape does.