Adam Stachowiak

I think we do.

There's a small margin of folks who do still have those skills, and because it's a rare skill, they can charge high dollars.

And because they can charge high dollars because it's a rare skill, it happens less.

I don't think we can't do it.

I think it's become such a –

smaller minority that does that kind of craft and for those reasons it's elevated in cost and for those reasons it's just done less yeah you never see it because it doesn't make any sense to do it only the hyper rich can afford it and so only the in the unique places where the hyper rich can afford it does it take place for sure it happens it just doesn't right but it used to be everywhere that used just used to be you know how things got built and it took a long time

Let's talk about that, though.

Okay, so there's things that are incumbents in the marketplace.

I'm trying to think of particular ones, like NPM, for example.

They say that NPM can't be unseated because of its ubiquity and because of its just tentacles out there.

I think we're two or three.

I mean, this might actually hit closer to home because I just said NPM and I'd forgotten where you work.

I forget that GitHub owns that too all the time.

Okay, good.

I'm not throwing shots.

It's just my example.

But I kind of am in a way.

because we talked about this recently, was that securing NPM is table stakes.

And I do believe that.

That's still the show we did recently with Nicholas Zekas.