Adam Stachowiak

You pick.

Whichever direction you want to go.

I feel like mistakes are more interesting.

Scars, buddy knuckles.

Sometimes mistakes can be either or.

Sometimes the positive choices we make can be either or.

A scar or a buddy knuckle.

Well, so let's zoom into maybe how are you changed as a result?

Like, what did you do to... Where I'm trying to go to is how did you get here?

You know, in terms of not just where you're at in this moment, but like the person you are leading the company you are.

What are some of the things that were in your past or in your choice line that has now helped Ajay today be Ajay to lead?

Yeah.

Yeah.

One thing I wrote down a while back, this is actually 2012, September 2012.

And it was the question of where does a company's culture come from?

And essentially it's boiled down to what you just said there, which is a founder's values and principles define the company's culture.

And so these things, they're top down in a way, but if you don't have...

I guess, fortitude in who you are and why you are the way you are to push back when somebody says, hey, maybe that's not cool.

And you're like, you know, I can kind of see that.

But at the same time, it's kind of who I am.