Al Michaels

Shadow's a good word.

I actually double-checked on this, Tony.

I thought it might have been one of the anchor sites they did, but that's only...

Oakmont, Pebble, and Pinehurst.

Pinehurst, yeah.

Shinnecock, to me, is just so revered that it's going to be on a rotation, just maybe not as frequently, even though it did take.

When you were there in 86 with Boswell, that was its first open in 90 years.

Oh.

So we're past that part.

We're not waiting 90 years anymore.

It's an A-list.

I'm not a big gradist, but there's none better in the country, in my opinion.

And even though you could probably make arguments for places I haven't been, like Bandon Dunes or whatever, this to me is the closest you'll see to the old country in terms of just the look of it.

the quality of it.

Like we're driving on the outskirts of Shinnecock the other day, trying to get back to a dreaded parking lot and Southampton golf club right next to it.

My God, you felt like you were at one of those links courses there.

It was just gorgeous.

It's the heart.

I think it's as hard as anything.

It more so than, than, than Oakmont.