Al Robertson

the message I was giving them was come to Jesus and then grind it out for 80 years.

And then one day you get to go to heaven.

So I had all kinds of eschatological problems with that.

Hopefully you'll make it.

Yeah, you grind it out.

But I didn't understand what is that joy that was set before him?

You mentioned it was his love for us, but then we have a joy set before us as well.

And I read a book by a guy named Desire in the Kingdom.

I can't remember his name now.

James K.A.

Smith.

And he talked about humanity like we typically approach humanity at our cores.

We're thinking machines.

We're like brains on a stick.

And then the Reformation came and it was, no, we're primarily believing beings.

And he said, no, really what we primarily are.

is we're worshipers, we're lovers.

Yeah, it's not a matter of if you'll love or it's a matter of who or what you'll love.

And so that joy, I think what that sanctification does and the spiritual formative practices, at least for me, it's helped reorient and re-index my desires toward their proper end.

Now, that's a message that will resonate with young people because that is, I think, for my whole life, that's where I felt the emptiness.