Alan (Alan S.)
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 26 Jul
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He's not actually on the throne.
This is an important distinction.
Tolkien says he is de jure, the rightful king of both realms, and therefore could take back all the stones from anyone.
He has the superior claim on both possession and use.
quick latin aside something from my my law days that i'll remember de jure is a latin phrase that means by law or according to law and it is usually used in contrast with de facto which means in fact and that's how i got things mixed up right so right exactly so de jure is how things should be according to the law whereas de facto is how things actually are in the real world and so
Yeah.
It is really interesting.
It actually brings me back to sort of the various claims on the throne.
I'm thinking of Arvedui's claim where he's saying that he should... But of course, he would already been the rightful king of Arnor.
Arnor wasn't Arnor anymore.
It was just Arthedain.
But because of that, he's still an heir of Elendil by that definition, right?
Because he is...
of that line and he's occupying a lordship in the Numenorean realms by virtue of that descent.
So he would still have authority over the Northern stones.
But yeah, that whole idea of the way it's supposed to be, but the way it actually is, is the distinction.
And Tolkien saying, as long as it's the way it ought to be, even if it's not in practicality that way,
He still has the superior right.
Or they flick a little Smeagol off the edge of a cliff.
Like the paper football we used to play in middle school.
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