Alan Johnson
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Appearances Over Time
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48 Hours
The Puppet Master
So you're suggesting that John Grossman staged this shooting.
48 Hours
The Puppet Master
But the evidence the investigators were gathering told a very different story.
48 Hours
The Puppet Master
The car was registered to an insurance salesman named Hugh Estes.
48 Hours
The Puppet Master
At the time, Estes was a self-admitted crack addict.
48 Hours
The Puppet Master
Investigators put the squeeze on Estes, who told them all about the plan.
48 Hours
The Puppet Master
He coughed up the names of the two men in the T-Berg.
48 Hours
The Puppet Master
A crack dealer and pimp named Eddie Slim Stafford was the driver.
48 Hours
The Puppet Master
Another petty criminal, Roger Runyon, was the shooter.
48 Hours
The Puppet Master
Still, another man, Jeff Pollack, was not involved in drugs, but was at meetings where Samuels allegedly discussed the murder plans.
48 Hours
The Puppet Master
Ron Samuels gave the instructions to Hugh Estes and to Jeff Pollack.