Alan Shipnuck
speaker
1,382 appearances
5 recordings
3 series
first heard Apr 2026
last heard 3 Jul
Alan Shipnuck’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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No acknowledgement of what happened.
You know, Ashley's so stunned.
She doesn't say anything.
And that is what Pat is referring to.
And he had carried that
around for a long time i mean that that podcast with claude harman is seven years later right so after that podcast goes viral phil calls pat again to talk about this situation and they have this 26-minute phone call that ashley recorded it's on speakerphone and actually just made a recording of it she played it for me and it's a fascinating document and basically throughout
phil says i don't remember anything from that night we had all that wine and so that that's kind of that's his his stance and yet
he's also apologizing profusely throughout.
So he's kind of working both sides of the street.
I don't remember it, but if anything happened, I'm sorry for it.
And I didn't put this in the scratch story.
He says, why didn't you say anything back then?
You know, if this did happen and, and Pat Perez says, well, it would just devolve into a, he said, she said, and you're the big fish.
And so you would win that battle.
And so that gives you some insight into the,
pat's thinking and and how these things just kind of went away but clearly pat still had a lot of anger towards phil and it exploded in that podcast and that that helped make this story what it is because that lays the groundwork but you can tell he doesn't really believe that phil doesn't remember but what what you gonna do with that and that phone call is is fascinating
So I did a big story on Pat Perez years and years ago.
And I went to the family home.
Ashley cooked us pork chops.
We had a long dinner.
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