Alan Waxman

They were like 30% returns on first link.

Maybe it's 10 to 12% or 13 or something less than that.

But again, doing something outside of credit box, but on good assets or good businesses.

And that business at 24 years old, I went to present to Hank Paulson, Lloyd Blankfein, David Vayner, the executive committee.

And that was the first time that Goldman ever got in the middle market is through that.

By the way, that business joined Salisbury.

One of my partners told me it's over $50 billion now.

But it all happened because this guy, Stephen Plus, took the time, answered all those questions, would have never happened.

And that just taught me about developing people.

because I saw what happened to me.

And that's how he put so much emphasis on developing the younger generation.

Age is just a number.

Get people that buy in the culture, work hard, that are intellectually curious, ask questions.

That really changed everything.

But it really taught me a commitment

To develop him, a couple of my partners, Borna Mogbell and Matt Dillard, they were associates when they joined Sixth Street on the first day.

And I've been working with them every day since.

Whenever there's someone who I think at Sixth Street needs development or could be better at reaching the potential, guess who I have him work with?

Steven Plus.

It's incredible.