Alastair Campbell
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Cause I don't, I just don't, I don't, you are relitigating it.
You are, you are refusing.
Yeah.
But the, the, the statistics.
You can roll your eyes and sigh all you like.
But as I say, we're seeing a similar polarization of politics in countries that did not do a Brexit.
They don't fight these guys hard enough.
I did.
I thought I was good at it and I enjoyed it and I was heartbroken when I got moved.
Yeah.
There was a bit of that.
Yeah.
But also, I think Rishi needed
To move Suella.
And he needed someone that he felt could hit the ground running.
I didn't do the reshuffle, but I don't think David was doing a good job as foreign secretary.
I think he was over-indexing for the US.
I think he was overplaying his relationship with Vance, which has turned out not to be that useful.
They had a relationship, but he's not really exercised much diplomatic leverage from that.
And I also have pretty good authority because you never really step out of foreign affairs.