Alastair Campbell

that he wasn't spreading the love widely enough.

So this, this all goes, this all goes back to the fundamental.

It's the economy.

Stupid.

Everything is dependent on a foundation stone of a healthy and vibrant economy.

And our economy has grown tremendously.

too slowly.

We are not the only ones, but our economy has grown too slowly.

That has meant that there's less money to go around than some governments would like.

And I think we have not applied the money we have had.

to the right priorities.

Uh, I think our industrial base, I didn't just mean heavy industry, but a lot of businesses, everything, everything from, from the pottery to data centers requires a large amount of, uh, cheap and reliable energy.

And we've, we've, we've, we've drifted away from understanding that.

And that's put us in a difficult place.

We, we became reliant on,

Back from the EU accession countries back when Tony Blair was prime minister, we became overly reliant on relatively high skilled but relatively low paid labour.

So we didn't invest enough in the kind of technologies that would increase productivity.

And we over relied on the...

post-Cold War peace dividend.

And so there are lots of things there that we need to do to re-establish ourselves as a top-tier player.