Alex Honnold

You just do all the things and some of them wind up being rad.

Yeah, things that push you and like things that are new for you, that are hard for you, that are challenging in the right ways.

You know, but you just can't you don't always know ahead of time which of those things are going to stand out or not.

But you just do them anyway because you're learning from them.

You're excited about them.

They're hard.

And then, you know, some are cool, some aren't.

Some you never even try.

I'm like, that's fine.

You just keep doing things.

Well, or my wife and I sometimes joke that we both have very strong opinions loosely held where it's like, oh, I'm totally sure of a thing right up until I get some data that shows that that's wrong.

And then you're like, oh, never mind, throw that away.

And that's kind of how a lot of my to-do lists have always been or like my goals where I'm like, oh, I have all these goals.

But if I take a slight fork in my year where it's like turns out, you know, for whatever reason.

Yeah, but just doing like one more set every time is like, that's always a challenge.

You're always like, my whole body hurts, but I'll just do a little more.

I know.

But I just don't, you know.

I mean, I've structured my life in a different way.

And I've made many different choices and all that.