Alex Tarnava

And then just the testing we're doing to like, you know, because.

We know, like, all these contaminants in.

We don't know how much is in.

Even, like, a lot of these certificates companies get saying that it's free of this or free of that.

And then you do the testing, and you see it's not.

Right.

Well, I was in Las Vegas.

Yeah, doing the milk run, going around.

I'm actually heading home just to do a family Christmas shoot tomorrow, and then I'm heading back out.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, it's unfortunate.

And there's like a dichotomy in my thoughts on travel.

because i hate travel i just want to be home when i'm traveling i want to be with my family i live in the forest i want to see the animals smell the trees just be in nature cook my own meals relax in my home be with my own thoughts read listen to music right um and i don't get to do that as much as much when i'm traveling but when covid hit

After four or five months, I started really craving travel because just like you said, you want to do these conversations in person.

You are so much more present in your meetings and conversations when you're seeing people in person.

And I found that all of my projects slowed down dramatically when I wasn't able to travel and go see people, talk to them on a personal level, connect and make sure we're on the same page and moving forward to the same mission.

And you get that contrast as well.

I think we were talking on the phone.

There's something I've been doing lately that's been expanding my thoughts tremendously.

I have stopped reading philosophy and politics of people I agree with.