Alisha Wainwright

Sorry.

It's my show, but I am gonna jump in with a question.

So let's zoom out very big picture.

Just explain to me what exactly is a therapy bot?

No, not at all.

And, I mean, how many mental health apps are there right now?

Do you know?

Yeah.

That's a long time ago, so I'm sure it's only gotten bigger.

I don't want to say worse, but bigger, yes.

Right.

And how many of those apps do you think are using AI?

It could be used as data analysis.

It could be used as a chatbot.

They're not very clear.

And do you think it's maybe like a little bit of a buzz, you know, like, oh, look, we're so technologically hip that our app uses AI or is that an unfair characterization?

I think it's interesting that John talked here about the noise, the marketing noise, the big promises, the failure of tools to make it clear what exactly they're offering.

And it can be hard to get beyond that, especially when tools, at least at the moment, might be promising more than they can deliver.

But there is a reason why so many developers have rushed into this space and why AI carries that big, buzzy punch that it does.

And I think that is because there's real promise and opportunity, too.