Alison Morrow
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And that was why I ended up getting back into the news business because I got it all out of my system. And I was like, I don't want to work with drug addicts. I'm not good at it. This is not fun. I'm going to go back into reporting. But I think that process set me up to be in a position where I had done a lot of, of just like facing myself on hard issues. And I learned that
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
like where my blind spots are. And, and instead of like looking at people that kind of irk me and blaming them, I like to turn inward and to look at myself and to see, you know, what it is about me that, that, you know, I have this reaction to them. And then that allows you to kind of be curious about people instead of reactive and defensive. And I think that really, you
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
carried me through my journalism career, meeting with people and thinking, okay, if I was born in the same situation they were, I had the same parents, I went to the same school, I had the same childhood and young adulthood, could I possibly think the way they do? Well, yeah, I could. So I had no right to really judge them from a spiritual standpoint. I could have ended up just like them.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
I didn't choose all these different things. By the grace of God, I am where I am. So it put me in a position to not stand over people and just be interested and not scared of them. There's no fear when you approach somebody that way. They can't dirt at you. I think there's a lot of journalists nowadays that think that if you talk to somebody that
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
is of one of these, I don't know, danger zones on the internet that somehow you're going to be tainted, which is a crazy way to look at journalism. Those are exactly the people that we should try to understand. But I think that's the reason that I was able to be in that position. I really believe it's a spiritual blindness. I have no other way to describe it.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
In a lot of ways, there is an issue with just like the factory farming of information and just the fast-paced and deadline-driven short stories, 90 seconds or less on television, for instance, and shorter copy in the news business and faster more. But the people who see that and are kind of over it and realize that there's no way you can cover a complex topic in that context,
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
world, a lot of those people have left. So I wish that was just the reason that everybody has good intentions and they would do better if they just had more time. But I don't think that anymore. I left in 2019. I saw the Trump administration, the beginning of that, how that was covered. And, you know, there's a lot of groupthink, just a considerable amount of groupthink.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And it got even worse when Trump was elected because there was this whole self-righteousness about it. Like when we go out and silence people or we quote fact check or whatever the words are that they're using, that they have this righteousness to them that in a way didn't exist or at least not to that level prior to 2016. So then when you kind of pushed into COVID and
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
COVID became like the next martyrdom where we're going to really have to silence people. We really have to go after misinformation. Like the public is at risk here. And so, you know, as the danger continues to mount, maybe it's the fear within the newsrooms.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
I've always had this theory that journalists, if you're seeing something that they want you to be afraid of, it's because they're afraid of it. Like, and if they're not afraid of it, they're just not going to tell you about it because they don't really care. I mean, there's just a lot of like, Projection, I guess, in that world.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
So I just think there's so much group think now and like managers don't do a very good job of encouraging people to think differently or to get outside of their safety zone. And a lot of the people that would have done that are gone.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Yeah. No, I agree with you. I mean, like I said, I tend to look at things from a psycho-spiritual perspective, so I think it's both. But there is no point going to the mat and arguing with a person that's kind of in that mindset. It's a waste of time. I have people on the show that I disagree with a lot. I mean, quite a bit. And I just like hearing what they have to say. Exactly.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Yeah, I mean, what's the big deal? We just walk away and I either disagree or agree with you, but I don't have to get emotional and fight you about it. But like I said, it switched at some point, and I pick 2016, but I'm sure it was mounting. It wasn't just like the faucet just turned on then. I'm sure that we were pushing towards something like that before. Right.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
But it went from journalism is trying to understand the outlier to journalism is trying to silence the outlier. And whoever's in charge of that, whoever was pulling the strings on that, if there is such a person like that or a group of people like that, they did it masterfully. Because a lot of journalists don't know they're participating in something like this.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
They truly believe they are the righteous martyrs and they're doing something right. And people just don't want to eat their broccoli. I mean, I heard that quite a bit, like when I would challenge people, you know, you're getting this wrong, you're getting that wrong, or people don't like you. You know, they're very offended when they hear fake news.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Oh, we're working so hard and nobody likes us anymore and it's all Trump's fault. And so the way they look at that is like, People just have been fed this diet of news candy, and they're trying really hard to get you back to broccoli. And if you don't like it, it's just because you don't like broccoli. They don't see it as like maybe they're doing something wrong.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Yeah, you can bring in Pete. Yeah, bring in Pete. We'll see what he has to say. But I mean, all these words that you just said, those are like new words for me in independent media. When I was in TV news, I never knew what a PSYOP was. I would have thought you were crazy if you said that to me.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
I've kind of opened it up to civil liberties, generally speaking. So I have farmers who have the government, like the USDA or the local State Department of Agriculture, come in and dump their raw milk. Or all kinds of people who are in a... an area of civil liberties that maybe people haven't thought about a guy in New York who was making guns at home. And, uh, now he's in prison.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
So people like that. And I interview them. I like to go direct to the person that's in the news story. I might see trending, or maybe they haven't gotten into a news story, but I'm, I'm really interested. Like I still am doing the kind of the, the, the thing I was doing before with the doctors. I read CNN. I see this person ripped apart by CNN. I, Send him a message on Twitter.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Can you come on my show and explain what's going on? I just had a constitutional sheriff, Richard Mack, was just on my show. And he's, oh my gosh, I mean, the terrible things that the media says about him. Just like, let's give him a chance to explain himself. A lot of journalists will not do that anymore because they call it platforming.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Like we talked about earlier, you can't you can't even just listen to someone and say, yeah, OK, you know what? Maybe this person is an a-hole. You know, I don't want to talk to him, but like at least hear him out, you know, for yourself and see. And that's the whole point of what I try to do is like I take questions from my audience. I let him go direct with these folks and let them decide.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Even when I was interviewing the doctors and scientists during covid. My purpose was not to push their agenda if they had one or to say these people are right and the CDC is wrong. It was just to say, here's another side that you're not hearing.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And if you want to make an informed decision about your job or your health with all these choices that we are going to have to make in the next months to years with the pressure on mandates and whatnot, then at least make a decision with more information. And so that's just what I'm still trying to do is just
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
showcase people to let folks know that what you're seeing in mainstream news is not the end of the story. And that interview with Dr. Cariotti that I did that started this whole thing, that is part of the Missouri v. Biden case. That's in that case. I never thought in a million years when I was interviewing him that day that this is where I would be on the Dr. Drew show several years later.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Yeah, I remember the first time I came across this idea, a friend of mine sent me an Instagram post of Joe Rogan's, this is like years ago, and she was his fellow journalist. She's like, I don't agree with everything that Rogan says, but this is interesting.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And I wrote her back and I was like, why did you have to say, I don't agree with everything Rogan says, but I found, I mean, just send me the post. I assume you don't agree with everything that Rogan says, but that was the first time I was like, people have to posture in a specific way so that they're like, put this person, you know, distance from them.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Like, okay, look, I'm not in this guy's camp or anything, but like this one thing he said, I guess is kind of right. And so that was the beginning of when I realized we can't just like share a piece of information. It comes with the identity of this whole group weird world of social media where, like, we're endorsing or we're, like, on the team of or whatever it is just by sharing an idea.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And so, yeah, I mean, that was such a brilliant... You were talking about the term psyop. Like, that is so brilliant. If there was somebody who came up with that, the idea that you can... you can silence people, not by force, but by basically brainwashing them to believe that they need to silence themselves. Otherwise they will be ostracized in any number of ways.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And people just can't handle that. They, they just like, they need to stay in their little groups. They, they want to make sure whether it's, I totally understand the job thing. Look, I get it. I lost my job, a significant income, but all kinds of other things besides that, you know, I don't want my grandma to hate me or I, I, you know, people don't even date folks now because
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
who vote differently. So yeah, this whole team sport thing on social media where we can't talk to anyone who's different from us, it was sinister but brilliant, however that came to be. And yeah, it drives me totally nuts.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Well, can I tell you a quick story about those dolphins that are in your commercial, the Navy dolphins? Okay. Well, when I was an environmental reporter, that was a top secret program. Like it's very difficult to get any info on them. But my husband was a Navy instructor. He was a special operations reconnaissance Navy trainer. And so one time he was out with these Navy SEALs.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Okay. I have a small farm with chickens and goats and cows and a horse. And I would really love for those animals to feed our family. Right now I'm like a failed farmer. So that would be amazing. And then on top of it, I've started to sell some eggs. So I would love for there to be maybe some farm income. So that's like one of my big goals. I have two young children and I love raising them.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
We're planning to homeschool. One's four and one's two. So that's the other thing that the farm works towards is just being able to teach our kids how to raise animals and just learn about actual skills that can keep you alive. And I'd love to keep the podcast going. I don't know what's going to happen with the lawsuit. I think my hope is that
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
I come to this in a spirit of love, but truthfulness, not resentment. I think right now where we're failing in the opposition is that we're all very angry. And I think this comes out in the way we're talking to people and trying to make progress here. And my parents taught me a long time ago that
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
when you love somebody, love your neighbor as yourself, when you love somebody, you tell them the truth. But you tell them the truth in love, in a spirit of love, not in a spirit of revenge. And so I hope that that is the atmosphere of this lawsuit, that it is Allison standing up and saying, this was wrong what you did to me, but to do it in a spirit of love and not revenge.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And whatever happens at the end, if that is the journey, then I'll be grateful for that. So we'll see. I don't have any long-term plans other than being a mom and a wife is my number one priority. If the animals can feed my family, that would be great. And if people still want to watch my show, then that would be wonderful too. And I really appreciate your having me on. This is such an honor.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
I'm all over the place. I'm on YouTube. You can find all the links there if that's the easiest place to go. But I cut my show short there because of censorship. So Rumble, Locals, AllisonMorrow.Locals.com, Twitter, Instagram. I'm all over the place. You can't miss me. Whatever your preferred choice is, you just might not get the whole story depending on where you watch.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
It's just my name, Allison Morrow.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Right. I agreed that when my bosses told me, there was not a choice. I mean, I told them, I need to think about this for a couple of days because I wanted some time to figure out how I was going to word what I was going to say. But there was no turning back. I knew this was a real crossroads. It was like...
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
If I if I went their direction, that was going to be a totally different Allison, maybe forever. And that, you know, if I was going to stand and be the Allison that I am like this was the moment, you know, this whatever would come. And I had real peace about it. I know people wonder sometimes, like, how do you make these decisions or whatever? How do I know?
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
They're doing their training. And they have the dolphins. And this one dolphin keeps coming up and signaling that there's somebody under there. There's something wrong. And they keep telling her to go back down and do her job. She's supposed to go get this fork. And she keeps coming up saying, there's a problem, there's a problem.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And, you know, sometimes you don't always have that. But in this particular case, I could not choose the other way. I just couldn't. There was like, oh, Paul.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Yeah, it just is.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Everyone thinks she's nuts because they're in this highly secure part of the base, very close to the coast of California, Southern California. So finally, she comes up with a man in her mouth that she ripped off who was illegally poaching lobster from the floor of the ocean there and was like- That's hysterical. Yeah. Yeah, like shook him like, I tried to tell you there was somebody on it.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
So my husband actually had to go to hyperbaric treatment with that guy because she had like ripped him up, you know, a hundred feet from the sea floor. Anyway, I just had to tell you that story since you- Oh, that is fantastic.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Oh, yeah. Right, yeah, that's why. So they had to rush him to the hospital very quickly. But I just thought it was hilarious. My husband always says it was the female dolphins that were the hardest to work with because they always had their personality of their own. The men kind of like the boys did what you told them to do. So they just thought she was being obstinate that day.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
She wasn't paying attention and wasn't following the rules. And so she just like... See, I told you this guy was trying to give you a warning.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
What happened? Yeah, you're like, now I see why she got fired.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
What happened? All right. Well, I was a TV reporter for quite a long time, 12, 13 years. I started my TV career as a producer for Fox and Friends morning show on Fox News Channel. I left and got a master of divinity degree specializing in psychology and counseling, and then decided to get back into television as a reporter. I worked in several markets, eventually got to Seattle, Washington.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
I took over the environmental beat there, covered the environment wildlife for about five years. It was an amazing job. I got to see goats fly through the air, hooked to helicopters, all kinds of crazy things that people do in the Seattle area for wildlife and the environment. But I decided to quit TV. We can talk about that if you'd like.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
I took a job with the Department of Natural Resources for Washington State as a communication specialist, and I was shooting videos for them about wildfire and forest health. On the side, they knew that I had my independent journalism work on several platforms.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And when COVID hit, I started interviewing people who were censored or defamed, essentially, by my old industry of broadcast news or just generally the mainstream media, print journalism, too. I was fascinated by this trend to look at a doctor who had been in practice for, say, 20 or 30 years. And, like, overnight, they were just... a complete quack.
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Like they were leading people to an early grave. They were defying all these scientific and medical norms. Like they were just totally crazy. And that didn't make rational sense to me that somebody who had saved many, many lives or decades was a leader in their field. One of them, Dr. David Brownstein, he's the guy who founded the Holistic Medicine Center in Detroit, Michigan.
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He was one of the first doctors I ever interviewed. He was actually told by the FTC when he was putting up early treatments that for COVID. This was like at the very beginning when nobody knew what was going on, what was working, what they were doing. He thought it would help that people would like it if he saved people's lives and he posted how he did it on the internet, on his own website.
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But no, apparently people didn't want to know. So the FTC came after him, told him that he had to shut it down. And I had him on my show. He was one of many, many doctors like that that I was profiling just so that people could get a different perspective on what they were seeing on, say, CNN, any number of these channels.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And when my bosses saw that, you mentioned Dr. Aaron Cariotti, he was the one who got flagged because apparently it was controversial to talk about natural immunity at the time. So YouTube took the video down. I went to Twitter and said, hey, I... I interviewed this doctor.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And if you think that there are doctors out there that aren't questioning mandates, that aren't questioning what's going on here, it's because you're not allowed to hear them. My bosses saw that and said, wait a second, you can't talk to people who are questioning mandates. We have a mandate. And I said, well, you're the government.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
You can't tell me what I can do in my free time and who I can talk to in my free time. I'm allowed to talk to Dr. Cariotti. You know, what am I not allowed to go get coffee with him on the weekend and take a selfie and put it on my Instagram page? I mean, what are you saying here? And they're like, you can't, let these people talk about this stuff. It's undermining our policy.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
So I told him I was not gonna do that. I had a First Amendment right to continue, and they fired me. And so now we're suing.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
No, it's totally right. Jay Bhattacharya was on my show, actually. And I think one of the reasons that I was doing what I was doing was to just show that there were these very, like, I don't know, the best, it's like a normal person. You know, it's just normal people. They're not... I didn't find anything like extremist, even though now I kind of like wear that as a badge of honor.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
He actually said that somebody, who was it? Dr. Collins told him, said he was a fringe epidemiologist or something like that in one of the emails that got released in the Twitter files.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Right. And that psychological operation, whatever you want to call it, was so effective with journalists. And they bought into it hook, line, and sinker and were just believing, like you said, that all these people that were going rogue against the CDC were some kind of fringe weirdos, you know, that just didn't know science. And it just didn't make any sense. Murderers.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Yeah. No, yeah, truly. And then also, there was also this lie that it was like just the disinformation dozen. You know, just a dozen people. You know, I have chickens. I know what a dozen is. Just a dozen. It fits in your little egg carton. And, you know, it's not any more than that, questioning what's going on here.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And so a lot of these journalists, you know, I think they didn't do their research. And they're just like, oh, it's just a few people, so let's just go after them. And that was... again, one of the reasons I decided to start interviewing these people personally, I just wanted to know what was really going on, but also I just wanted to show like, look, these people are at Stanford.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
They're at the university of California. They're not, not, not that I have anything against an underground bunker. I live in Florida. I would probably have one if it wouldn't flood, but this is not where these people were coming from. And I just would like, Oh man, it was just mind blowing to me that
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
That you that you could so easily turn them into complete extremist quacks when it's like these people are just you're like run of the mill doctors. You know, they're just people who have been in business and practice for decades and they're they're totally normal.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Yes, I didn't because I tried. He was very busy at the time. And yeah, and I have a small- He's in Belgium. Yeah, he's in Belgium. No, but I know who he is, yeah.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
Okay. The first question was why, right? Why did I see it and other people didn't? It's a million dollar question why some people saw it and other people didn't. I ask almost every guest that comes on my show, especially like in the COVID era, why? And there's so many different reasons. I'm a Christian. I truly believe that it's a spiritual blindness. I think there's just a lack of self-awareness.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
I think you have to, you know, we were talking about how I went to graduate school at the reason that I was going to go into addiction counseling was because I had a loved one who was basically dying of a heroin addiction. And I told a professor when I was working at this methadone clinic about why I wanted to be a psychotherapist. And he said, He said, all right, give me it.
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Alison Morrow: Emmy-Winning Journalist FIRED For Refusing To Censor Interview With Doctor, Launches Lawsuit Against Washington State – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 431
And I, well, I have this loved one who I can't save, so I'm going to go save other people. And he looked at me and was like, that is a terrible reason to want to be a psychologist to project all of your issues onto somebody else. You know, have you ever thought about going to therapy? And I was like, uh, I don't know. I was kind of offended, but I decided to do it.