Alistair Campbell

And 90% of Japan's oil comes from the Middle East.

South Korea is worrying about rationing.

Vietnam is worrying about rationing.

Yeah.

Now, I guess there the point is that the challenge is still on Ed Miliband.

I mean, look, there might be any number of explanations for why our industrial energy costs are higher than those in Europe and much higher than those in the US, but it's a big, big problem.

It's a big problem for industry.

It's a big problem for tech.

It's a big problem for our sovereignty, right?

If we don't start building data centers,

We are going to be, I don't know, the British are going to be like the Zulu Empire at about the time of the arrival of British industrial colonialism.

We're going to be in a completely mad world where we will totally lack access to the technology which is going to drive the next industrial revolution.

We've got to build those data centers.

I did.

Part of that is that she simply doesn't believe there's an AI revolution coming.

She disagrees with the idea that AI matters and that Britain needs to be in the AI race.

I'm afraid she's almost certainly entirely wrong.

Certainly, the entire global markets are betting against her.

And anybody who uses these models, I think, feels that they are improving out of all recognition every three months.

And that the countries that have those models will be able to do things with their economies, their health services, with their defense equipment that people who don't have them won't be able to do.