Alistair Campbell

It would be like choosing...

in the Industrial Revolution not to have steam.

Exactly.

You're totally right.

And this is why data centers are now increasingly unpopular in the United States.

I mean, these data centers, look, the upside is that you get to participate in the

AI revolution, which is going to reshape the whole world.

And if you don't have those things, your economy will collapse.

The American economy will boom and you will have no leverage at all.

So it's not really an option.

But the cost of installing these data centers is unbelievable.

There's the cost of the landscape.

They're really big and they're really ugly.

There's the amazing energy costs.

So 50% of the increase in electricity demand in the US is driven purely by dentist centers.

There's the water cooling costs.

problems.

There's huge environmental impacts of these things.

Then the question, I guess, if you're a government is, it's the classic problem, I'm afraid, with any planning.

And, you know, I don't want to use the word NIMBY, but we've got to build these things.