Alistair Campbell

Where do we build them?

So if you don't build them in next to a sparsely populated village in Scotland...

Are you going to build them in Hampshire?

Where are you building these things?

People will get really pissed off.

And I think get with the programme is a horrible phrase.

But do remember, I mean, I was very, very involved in Cumbria with community groups fighting against wind turbines.

And you would have seen very, very similar arguments made against the wind turbine company, that they were using dodgy statistics.

Right, absolutely.

But what you would have seen is the campaigners producing very, very similar documents, saying the company said this, but that's a lie.

This is the truth.

This is the impact on these birds.

This is the impact on this biodiverse landscape.

This is the picture they've shown us.

This is the real picture.

This is what the law says.

Yeah.

So, I'm afraid this is the story around HS2, this is the story around third runway at Heathrow, this is the story around data centers, this is the story around buildings.

There are very, very good reasons for local communities passionately to oppose these things.

Wonderful reasons, because they love their landscape, they care about their community, and these things are a net negative to that community in Fife.