Alistair Campbell

There are the military threats.

He sent the head of the CIA essentially to sit down with the government and say, you don't need to go or you don't need to change or go.

And of course, the threat of military action at the back of this.

So I think we're talking here about Trump.

We constantly talk about Trump wanting sort of, you know, right history.

He keeps saying that he's going to be the president who sorts out Cuba once and for all.

Now, he says that about a lot of things.

We'll see whether he actually manages to deliver.

But if I were Cuban right now, I'd be very, very worried.

Which government of the world would do it?

Spain!

Sanchez!

But this goes back to this point about how the norms are breaking down.

For example, when Netanyahu was travelling to

different parts of the world, having to go navigate through complicated airspace because there were certain countries he feared getting arrested.

Putin, the same thing when he's traveling around the world.

It's a very interesting thought.

But of course, what's happening is that Trump thinks he can get away with anything.

Well, we could get him at a golf course near you any weekend, I suspect, including when he doesn't go to his own son's wedding.

They wouldn't be very happy.