Alistair Campbell

And I do worry about the way we are in this click economy.

But the voice notes that the Rest Is Politics younger listeners have sent in have actually given me a lot of hope because they are super informed.

And Billy mentioned asset price, inflation, housing.

And you and I got to know each other when you were housing secretary.

And we talked at length about all the things you were going to do.

And you have done a lot of it.

The government has done it.

You did it when you were in post.

Renters' rights, leasehold reform.

But it's still not going to fix this problem we've got.

In the 90s, when New Labour were in power, the average house price was three or four times the average wage.

Now it's eight times that.

Correct.

And you've got members of Gen Z living in your house.

We know that they are more likely to be living with their parents than owning a home of their own.

More likely to be able to get onto what we used to call the housing ladder.

I don't think that exists anymore.

If you've got parents who can help you.

It is interesting because a lot of the legislation we're talking about that really speaks to some of the issues Billy's feeling right in his day-to-day life, they are really complicated issues

Acts of Parliament bills that are going through.