Alistair Campbell

It's really clever.

And I love the way she sort of brings you in and says at the end of every chapter, she doesn't just say, and then what happens is this.

She basically says, you can now decide, do you want to go to this bit of the future or that bit of the future?

But the Arctic, the Arctic is so big in this.

And George Robertson, you mentioned George Robertson, former defense secretary, former general secretary of NATO, one of the three people who did the defense review.

And he's clearly really believes that we, the UK,

are not well set up for this developing, changing world.

And coming up on Monday, Anas Sarwar.

But meanwhile, do check out Zelensky.

Although that's the reason why it is good news that Orban has gone and Magyar has indicated that he will no longer act as a block on the European money that is meant to be going there.

I've got, by the way, we're recording this on Tuesday.

One of the several prime ministers...

who sent me a message saying, really enjoyed your interview with Zelensky.

It was Jonas Garstor in Norway.

And Zelensky is in Norway today.

So hopefully they're discussing this great plan.

And Rory, I'm going to leave you with a little conundrum.

If you had an acronym for a military alliance composing of the UK, Ukraine, Norway, and Turkey...

What would you call it?

There we are.