Amala Ekpunobi

He sounds angry.

To me, he sounds angry.

Would you be angry?

I think you'd be angry.

And I don't know.

I really don't know what else there is to say about this.

We don't always like to speak in anger.

I think he actually goes on in this clip.

We should probably finish it out to talk about this idea of forgiveness.

And it doesn't sound like he's quite there yet, although he will state that he is.

Of course, he talks about forgiveness to let go of hate and anger.

I think it's pretty clear in listening to him that there's still some hatred and anger, remnants of that, probably way less than what he would have felt at the beginning of this entire thing coming into his life, left behind in this.

And that's okay.

He's a father whose son was stabbed to death.

I just don't know where we're at.

And I think some people want to be at a place that they're not yet, want to be at a state of total forgiveness, and they want that to be the message that they present to the world, but they're not quite ready yet, I think, to fully espouse that in a way that is even-tempered and mild-mannered after something like this.

And I think...

there can be a moment where you get the duct tape taken off your mouth, which is what has happened with this guy.

And you go, well, now's my time to speak.

I'm going to jump on it immediately.