Amy Robach

And in fact, you know, the other point of this that made it all the more, I would think, memorable in the moment is they had to take the laptop while Christine, the wife, was at home.

Stressful time, it should be.

Imagine that.

You're sneaking and stealing someone's computer who is in the home, who if they catch you, you literally have no reason why you would have their computer.

And what you're doing is setting up their death.

Who was reading the messages back and forth to these folks that they were conversing with on FetLife?

They were trying to find the right person to set up for a murder, and that involved not meeting that person ahead of time, which is... It's good to know that some people actually are taking safety in mind and say, yeah, before we do this...

you know, violent or like full violent, I guess, sex act.

Let's meet in person and make sure that we don't have trust issues before we do this fairly non-conventional violent sex act together.

Literally, that is apparently how it works.

And so they were running into roadblocks because people were actually going about it in the safe way.

Before I end up, yes, cutting your clothes off with a knife and gagging you.

Let's, yeah, let's have a drink.

Let me see that we're both good with this, but I get it.

They had to go through several different folks to find the person, and it ended up being, unfortunately for Joseph Ryan, he ended up agreeing to carry out this sex fetish without meeting up in person.

But you would think, again, conversing with people, asking for very violent, specific things.

Who wrote the email?

Who read the email?

She couldn't remember anything.

And she ended up getting at one point so annoyed, she said, I am not going to do this.