André Duqum

and is something I've had in my awareness, I think just also over the past couple of years more and like had a big few moments where that would became like blurringly obvious to me and then like,

some residual, you know, some residue that is still material to be worked with there.

Yeah.

Um, was there, you said there was, there was a few others as well.

I'm just curious if you want to like let them rip.

Yeah.

I'll see.

What, like not owning bigness of like... What do you mean by that?

Meaning that...

Like worldly ambition, business ambition, and spiritual.

How do those two things marry with one another more so?

I'm sure you've confronted this a lot in your own journey as you keep growing and like,

I think we were talking a little bit before we actually started recording, you know, like as you operate your own business and you really truly believe it's got meaningful work and it's important for people to receive and scaling it becomes a responsibility and a benevolent endeavor.

Yeah.

Those are the two things.

Yeah.

I think I was using the responsibility more than like it's actually there's a there's a joy and responsibility as opposed to more obligation.

But but yeah, I hear you on that.

Yeah.

Sweet.