André Duqum

And so maybe you could like lay out one or two or just like, you know, and in doing so, share how you kind of think of having that balance of empathy and the rigor when it comes to that.

When it comes to actually working with retrieved, proposed retrieved crafts and non-human biologics, what's the most mind-blowing thing that you learned and talked about in your conversations with him?

Because that's...

That, to most people, is, like, what would really move the needle in terms of the scientific approach of, like, if you have an alien being that was apparently worked on and crafts that were retrieved, you know, Nolan's, you know, small samples of...

What exactly were they again?

So like that stuff points like for the very skeptical mind, I think, into really verifying it.

So just for people that don't know the context with Grush and the non-human biologics.

We'll get right back to the episode.

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