Andrew Callaghan

And most of the comments on Instagram would be making fun of them, being like, I can't believe they think this.

But then at the end of every comment section on every single post, there'd be a comment or two that would say like, this is my brother.

I haven't seen him in five years.

He hasn't been the same since that workplace accident.

He lost his pension or got taken off a workman's comp and fell off the deep end.

Or, man, this is my best friend.

He's been an alcoholic or a divorce.

It's very common with older dudes, too.

So I had it in my head for a long time.

that a lot of the people that you'd see who are the most angry at these kinds of fringe events had some deep personal tragedy in their life prior to even getting politicized at all.

I just never had enough time to actually spend with someone to show that theory in action.

And This Place Rules was filmed over the course of two and a half months where I was popping from political flashpoint to political flashpoint.

is what drove you to follow Kelly? Well, it kind of actually all started back at the Flat Earth Conference in 2019 that I covered in Dallas for All Gas, No Brakes. So I post a video of people at the rally talking about various Flat Earth concepts. And most of the comments on Instagram would be making fun of them, being like, I can't believe they think this.

is what drove you to follow Kelly? Well, it kind of actually all started back at the Flat Earth Conference in 2019 that I covered in Dallas for All Gas, No Brakes. So I post a video of people at the rally talking about various Flat Earth concepts. And most of the comments on Instagram would be making fun of them, being like, I can't believe they think this.

is what drove you to follow Kelly? Well, it kind of actually all started back at the Flat Earth Conference in 2019 that I covered in Dallas for All Gas, No Brakes. So I post a video of people at the rally talking about various Flat Earth concepts. And most of the comments on Instagram would be making fun of them, being like, I can't believe they think this.

capturing like the raw group energy of the crowds at that time.

But with Kelly, I had four years to film this documentary.

Wow.

And so I really got to get into the nitty gritty of what that process looked like.

Not with an emphasis on what particular media he consumed, because that's a lot of times people fall into that trap.