Andrew Jarecki

And why are they there?

Because, you know, he tries to put his food in a bag that hangs on the door of the cell, but then they write him a disciplinary for doing that.

But if he takes his food out of the bag and he puts it on the counter and

then the rats are gonna get it during the night.

Yeah, yeah.

So there are rats throughout the prison.

And so it's a sleep in this room where these rats are crawling all over him at night.

Yeah.

You know, and people just to get into him for a second.

I mean, he is he is frankly one of the most one of the bravest people I've ever met in my life.

You know, this is a guy who was incarcerated when he was 19 and he was selling drugs in his neighborhood.

Somebody is trying to chase him down with a car.

and almost runs him over and he shoots the person through the window and the guy dies.

So this is now 30 years ago.

In any other condition, you would have thought that's a self-defense case, right?

It was clear that he was trying to prevent somebody from running him over with a car.

And yet here he is 30 years later with a life without parole sentence in an Alabama prison.

And he's spending his time trying to organize non-violent labor strikes.

He's trying to do hunger strikes.

He's trying to use every –