Andrew Oleson

We'll take a look at, okay, if you don't have a brand, we can build you one.

If you do have a brand, what do you want it to say?

And what's the reality of what it says?

And then how do we bridge that gap?

Then everything that comes out of that, the website, maybe it's a SaaS product, whatever, the graphic design work, the branding work, whatever we do really comes out of the strategy that we've picked up at the beginning.

Take it.

Just give me a buck every time you use it.

We do battle that a little bit, but when people see the portfolio of work that we've done, it really changes the landscape.

For example, I'm co-owner of another company called Leveler, and when I first met the founder, Jeff Deem, he kind of came to us with this idea.

The idea was so fire that I was like, I have to be a part of this in a bigger way than just doing it.

But we we did the brand work, which was interesting because he hated it at first.

We did the brand work.

We did the software development.

We do all of the marketing.

What was crazy is when he first came to us, we were kind of I don't want to say his third pick.

I don't mean it like we were the redheaded stepchild, but he had gone to other agencies.

And because of the complexity of what he wanted done, they flat out told him no.

We took the challenge head on and it has been a challenge.

We've been doing it for three and a half years, but it's been incredible.

We just launched the product a couple of months ago and we're already seeing success with it.