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Andrew Rose (UK)

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

And Hannah, I think, and I might be mistaken on this, that incident in California, I think they actually went down to the genotypes and were able to pinpoint that strain did come from that farm and was introduced by them as well. Yeah, there's no denying that happened.

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

And Hannah, I think, and I might be mistaken on this, that incident in California, I think they actually went down to the genotypes and were able to pinpoint that strain did come from that farm and was introduced by them as well. Yeah, there's no denying that happened.

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

And on a broader level, I, along with cybersecurity risks, we talked about ransomware, the future of these attacks are gonna be social engineered attacks. Someone is gonna have a synthetic persona and they're gonna approach in a certain way to appeal to romance or job or whatever that thing is.

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

And on a broader level, I, along with cybersecurity risks, we talked about ransomware, the future of these attacks are gonna be social engineered attacks. Someone is gonna have a synthetic persona and they're gonna approach in a certain way to appeal to romance or job or whatever that thing is.

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

and a lot of the folks in the the vegan community and i know it is not considered a religion but if you do follow their doctrines you can see there's tears that they all try to achieve and in my mind is even they don't have an oracle or a priest or something like that there is a lot of religiousity about being a vegan it's a belief in the animals rather than the health or anything else around that and if it is indeed designated as a religion

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

and a lot of the folks in the the vegan community and i know it is not considered a religion but if you do follow their doctrines you can see there's tears that they all try to achieve and in my mind is even they don't have an oracle or a priest or something like that there is a lot of religiousity about being a vegan it's a belief in the animals rather than the health or anything else around that and if it is indeed designated as a religion

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

then additional terrorism rules will apply to that as well. So I think they dance a really fine line. Again, just monitoring their conversations. I've seen vegans eviscerate other vegans because they have a horse or because they feed their cats something that has protein in it rather than broccoli and what have you. Had I said that, they'd be like,

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

then additional terrorism rules will apply to that as well. So I think they dance a really fine line. Again, just monitoring their conversations. I've seen vegans eviscerate other vegans because they have a horse or because they feed their cats something that has protein in it rather than broccoli and what have you. Had I said that, they'd be like,

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

i do want to go back to one thing that mike said before just on the you know what can a farmer do i always come at this from right of boom i come in the conversation after the attack has happened so okay let's put the pieces together and let's figure out how we can mitigate this going forward so i always advocate for doing a tabletop exercise Do a what if.

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

i do want to go back to one thing that mike said before just on the you know what can a farmer do i always come at this from right of boom i come in the conversation after the attack has happened so okay let's put the pieces together and let's figure out how we can mitigate this going forward so i always advocate for doing a tabletop exercise Do a what if.

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

And Hannah's probably got, I don't know, seven or eight different case studies she can share with you on different types of activist actions that could disrupt your farming operations, whether it's a protest or something is adulterated or something like that. I would strongly encourage as part of the business continuity planning anyway to put a few of those on the agenda.

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

And Hannah's probably got, I don't know, seven or eight different case studies she can share with you on different types of activist actions that could disrupt your farming operations, whether it's a protest or something is adulterated or something like that. I would strongly encourage as part of the business continuity planning anyway to put a few of those on the agenda.

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

So in addition to the tornado or the fire, what else you're planning for, think about that. And I want to go back to something a little bit earlier too. A lot of people, because we kind of hinted at a cult-like mentality of folks in the vegan community, they're very susceptible to programming or suggestions. And a lot of times when you're that much of a zealot about what it is you believe in,

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

So in addition to the tornado or the fire, what else you're planning for, think about that. And I want to go back to something a little bit earlier too. A lot of people, because we kind of hinted at a cult-like mentality of folks in the vegan community, they're very susceptible to programming or suggestions. And a lot of times when you're that much of a zealot about what it is you believe in,

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

Your enemy's enemy is your friend. And our adversaries play on that sentiment and they can utilize these communities as a cat's paw. Whether that cat's paw is direct action, that cat's paw could be gathering information for a sympathetic friend, a synthetic sympathetic friend, perhaps. But our adversaries recognize that is an easy way in.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

Your enemy's enemy is your friend. And our adversaries play on that sentiment and they can utilize these communities as a cat's paw. Whether that cat's paw is direct action, that cat's paw could be gathering information for a sympathetic friend, a synthetic sympathetic friend, perhaps. But our adversaries recognize that is an easy way in.

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Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

And as we're getting, again, going back to that information warfare, if you have an emotional response to information, you're being manipulated. You have this self-awareness to ask yourself why, who benefits and go from there. And then lastly, as these folks are susceptible to suggestions, as an action happens, the desire of our adversaries or even these groups is to have a copycat action occur.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

And as we're getting, again, going back to that information warfare, if you have an emotional response to information, you're being manipulated. You have this self-awareness to ask yourself why, who benefits and go from there. And then lastly, as these folks are susceptible to suggestions, as an action happens, the desire of our adversaries or even these groups is to have a copycat action occur.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

So a lot of times these are more, they might be part of small groups. They could be lone wolves or solo operators that are out there that get enthusiastic or something or driven to that type of action too. And with the FBI, the FBI and law enforcement, it can't be everywhere. But what they ask is instead of being a bystander, be an upstander. If you see something, just say something.

Bites & Bytes Podcast
Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack

So a lot of times these are more, they might be part of small groups. They could be lone wolves or solo operators that are out there that get enthusiastic or something or driven to that type of action too. And with the FBI, the FBI and law enforcement, it can't be everywhere. But what they ask is instead of being a bystander, be an upstander. If you see something, just say something.