Andrew Rose (UK)
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Bites and Bytes Podcast · Agroterrorism & Cyber Threats: How Farms Are Under Attack · 4 Mar 2025
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It could be for someone's benefit as well. You've heard me say many times, If you support January 6th and want to hold a sign, that's great. That's your First Amendment right. If you don't like animals, people eating animals, hold a sign. That's your right. Just don't take an action because once you've taken that action, now you've introduced risk and consequence. That's a whole different world.
We say those words lightly, risk and consequence, but they are very serious words in law enforcement.
Well, there is one, Hannah, and correct me on the facts on this one, because I couldn't find the article. There was a mink farm that there was a virus was introduced there. So no one could ever raise a mink there again. And for me, that checks a few of those boxes as we start getting closer to defining what a terrorist act was. Did that actually happen? Do you remember any details about that one?
Oh, there's another level too. So in addition to those people at the farm, one of those armbands might be the cyber bullying team that's going after the kids that have an animal at the farm. I mean, that for me is breaks my heart because they're already, if you're a kid anyway, there's going to be some level of cyber bullying that happens.
If you're a kid in the agricultural community, it is a dog pile. I mean, my heart breaks for a lot of this stuff. And sometimes that's done in conjunction with the physical at the gate. And now you got the online intimidation as well. I view those as hand in glove and not separate incidents.
I do. And thank you for bringing up the summit. It is one of the best conferences I've ever been to. I do feel, and Hannah, you might want to cover your ears, that they price it too low for the value of the conference because a lot of times you go to conferences just for the networking and the capsules are throwaway conversations. This one, it's just riveting.
Everything about it is done really well. And it's a good group of people. And there's a camaraderie as well when you're in there. Everyone feels it's just a very friendly place to be. So I'm glad I was going to give you a shout out for that one if you hadn't brought that one up. Going back to the education piece, another group that needs to be educated in my mind are these animal activists.
We said that an action can result in risk and consequence and puts you on the radar screen of law enforcement. I think sometimes these activists don't realize what is also on these farms. It's not just the animals they're rescuing. There are large amounts of chemicals that can be used in nefarious ways, and that could enter into a conversation with law enforcement as well if you're in a
place like that that damages one of those storages or mixes something or even the thought of something like that occurring. So I do want, from an education point of view for these animal actors, to really think hard before you take any action that's going to put you in jeopardy or put our citizens in jeopardy because law enforcement will be paying attention to that.
And then, Kristen, you asked the question about what can the cyber community do for agriculture? Number one is awareness. Just know we exist. Know how important food is to our country and how critical this is. I know electricity, internet, transportation, all these other sectors get a whole lot of attention.
But I would really like for them just to pay attention to agriculture and lend resource wherever possible. I think every sector is understaffed, under-resourced. But, you know, play the heartstrings. And for your cyber friends, no acronyms. Just straightforward talk. I think I've run into so many cyber people and they immediately go right down to those rabbit holes of acronyms.
I'm like, all right, listen.
know ag i kind of know cybers but you've lost me at this point in time just you know have an authentic conversation meet the farmers where they are go you know understand what their business looks like because it might be atypical from another type of business as construction or auto repair or something like that um and and understand it and just again kind of going back to the overall theme here appreciate the role of farmers in our life in our society and in civilization
So my final thoughts are, I mean, number one, I am just so happy to be here with Hannah and Mike and yourself. I mean, some of the smartest people I've been around. And every time we have one of these conversations, I learn more and take lots of notes and maybe even borrow a phrase or two that I'll use some other time. I'm going to come back to how we started and that's the definition.
I know that if you are subjected to some of the actions of these animal activists, it's going to feel like terrorism. It's going to feel visceral and emotional. Just be careful throwing that word around. Again, as we discussed, there are certain definitions of terrorism. I think that it gets applied in some instances where it's not quite valid.
But also we discussed, I think there's some definitions that need to be re-examined. I won't go back to the religiosity of veganism, but I think that's an important topic that we need to discuss
as well but overall i'm just thankful to be here having this conversation because i think it's important to frame this properly i can't talk enough about hannah's organization so if you're not a member please consider being a member follow them support them the information they put out is way beyond the price and cost of entry
Sure. I am Andrew Rose. I am an advisor with the BioISAC. I represent the bioagriculture work group there. How we help people is basically to... trying to ensure they have food that they eat in a reliable consistent manner. Who we help are the agricultural community and bringing awareness mitigation response to cyber and related threats that they may encounter.
My role in that is understanding what those threats may be and putting tabletop and field exercises on and I have a particular fascination with agriculture for many reasons.
Andrew, why don't you go ahead first? Sure. I'm happy to take that one as well. And that would have to be pancakes. Every year for my birthday, we get to choose, well, all of us get to choose which restaurant we go to. And mine is always IHOP because you are always going to get a good pancake at IHOP.
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