Andrew Sage

Over the course of 15 years, it goes up gradually to sort of like spread out the anger over it.

But yeah, it is worth noting that China's is like significantly increased or is going to significantly increase over the course of the next 15 years.

Hmm.

Yeah.

And then on the other side of things, there is in the retirement age now, but the young people who are working today are more than likely not going to get any kind of pension.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'd rather the world of my sixties don't look like the world of my twenties.

That would be my preference.

So I would rather that we've reached a point as a society where pensions are not the necessary bandaid that they are right now.

But until then, you know, it is quite the powder keg.

We also have in Eastern Europe, you know, you have countries rolling out pro-natalist policies that tie financial support directly to family size.

I'm going to get a bit more into pro-natalism in the next episode.

But there's also the darker side of that pro-natalist push.

terms of the policies meant to reverse the population decline some governments instead of making life better for potential parents are criminalizing

They're turning to anti-choice policies.

They're restricting abortion.

They're limiting reproductive rights.

They're demonizing child-free lifestyles.

Russia actually recently criminalized what they called child-free propaganda, you know?