Andrew Wilson

So even you said center-left, that plays within a dialectic, right?

Yes, there's a center, but it's still left or right.

Maybe.

Yeah, so there's a dialectic.

So when we say left, what's the referent?

And when we say right, what's the referent?

Like what are we referencing here?

Sure, maybe.

But I mean, what is left and what is right politically?

Is it social issues?

Is it taxes?

Is it a mixture of both?

Mixture of both.

Okay.

So I think that we can break it down further into pillars.

So I think that these are philosophical positions and people just don't realize it.

When you're arguing with a guy like Destiny, the reason he's very frustrating for you to debate with, the reason that he wanted to bog things down into things, like the most ridiculous thing in the world, though it's unprecedented, everything's unprecedented, that's unprecedented, right?

The whole idea there, and you pointed this out rightly as well, I guess words don't mean anything, right?

We just use unprecedented, I guess, when we mean new.

When we get down to the core, the pillar that holds up the belief of destiny, what is it?