Andrew Wilson

Now, maybe they don't like that, but so what?

I don't like their view either.

And I think Christians should be in charge and they have no objection because they have no moral facts.

So who cares?

It comes down to, like you said, at the very beginning of the conversation, we'll circle it all the way back, comes down to who has the force.

Well, it's going to be the ideology in charge who has the force.

So is it going to be mine or is it going to be yours?

It's going to be the commies.

Who's it going to be?

And that's what I think the state of actual world affairs and politics is now.

It's like a race to the top.

It's kind of depressing.

I don't know if it's depressing.

It's almost like may the best man win, right?

May the best ideology win.

I don't know if it's depressing.

Why is that depressing?

It doesn't need to be exclusionary, though.

Just because one particular ideology holds the brackets of most of the power doesn't mean that it has to be exclusive or that it can't in some way accommodate other sections of society.

Well, I mean, tell me, how would San Francisco die off if you stopped letting gays get married there?